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Old 23-05-2013   #1
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Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

Air back alarm light on went on after seat removal. This know to most? I just wanted to check if my bottom plate has rust. I removed right seat and then noticed, that air back light is activated. Is there a easy way to set it off. I do not like to go to Fiat service, while Fiat idiots made the design so stupid. Can i somehow hook my laptop into Fiat? Which program I need?

Does anyone know If the air backs still work in case of accident even though the light is on?

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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

I appreciate that English is not your main language, but your question makes no sense.

What is "Air back"
What is this "bottom plate"? What does it do, where does it fit, etc. How is it connected to air back?

For software, look on here for MultiECUscan.

If you can make the question clearer, more help will hopefully be available.
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Quote Originally Posted by portland_bill View Post
I appreciate that English is not your main language, but your question makes no sense.

What is "Air back"
What is this "bottom plate"? What does it do, where does it fit, etc. How is it connected to air back?

For software, look on here for MultiECUscan.

If you can make the question clearer, more help will hopefully be available.
I think it is fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that the guy is referring to an Air Bag and wanting to check if the floor of his car is rusty. English may not be his main language but he made a reasonable attempt and your attitude is unhelpful. What's your Finnish like?
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I think it is fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that the guy is referring to an Air Bag and wanting to check if the floor of his car is rusty. English may not be his main language but he made a reasonable attempt and your attitude is unhelpful. What's your Finnish like?
Why do you feel the need to be rude? If you understand the question, why don't you give an answer instead?
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Quote Originally Posted by portland_bill View Post
Why do you feel the need to be rude? If you understand the question, why don't you give an answer instead?
Sorry if you think I was being being rude but your reply was discourteous to the original poster. I have insufficient knowledge to give a helpful answer but now you know what the question is about perhaps, given your experience in the motor trade you could assist.
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

There are 3 different airbag modules in barchetta depending on year of manufacturing.
95-97 -) these can be reset by making contact on one of the wires with a 12v mine. To be read out with multimeter

97 -)?
Until some weeks ago it was not possible to reset/read out these
units ending with ..98 were not able to read out.
Now it can be done
read:http://www.fiatbarchetta.nl/smf/inde...1.msg55685#new
please use translator if you don't understand

?-)2003-)2005
These have the engine and airbag to be read out with an obd2 cable.
All can be done with fiatecuscan

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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

Thanks for English lesson . During my several trips to other countries I have noticed, that not so clever people usually don't understand a not native speaker easily ... more clever can figure out easily the meaning from what was said/wrote a pit wrong.

And thanks also for the help concerning AIRBAG control system.

In my case all 'parts' (sensors, control and BAGS, wiring ) should be ok, but the control unit just is confused (=stupid) , while I removed the seat. Does anyone know if the system still work in case of serious accident although the airbag alarm lamp is on?
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

First of all Welcome.

Because you removed the seat and undid the connectors below the seat without disconnecting the vehicle battery the Airbag Control Unit, which remains powered when the ignition is turned off, thinks that there is a wiring problem.

Unlike of control units, like the engine ECU, Airbag control units do not self reset when the fault is corrected and they required diagnostic kit to reset them.

The good news for you is that *FREE* version MultiECUScan can reset this for you and all you will need to buy is a cheap VAG KKL cable AND a 3 pin connect adaptor.

See http://www.multiecuscan.net/SupportedVehiclesList.aspx

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Ensinnäkin Tervetuloa.

Koska olet poistanut istuin ja undid liittimet istuimen alla irrottamatta auton akku Airbag Control Unit, joka on edelleen virtaa, kun virta on kytketty pois päältä, ajattelee, että on olemassa johdotus ongelma.

Toisin kuin ohjausyksiköt, kuten moottorin ECU, Airbag ohjausyksikkö eivät itse nollata, kun vika on korjattu ja ne tarvitsevat diagnostiikkasarja palauttaa ne.

Hyvä uutinen sinulle on, että * ILMAINEN * versio MultiECUScan voi nollata tämän sinulle ja sinun täytyy ostaa on halpaa VAG KKL kaapelin ja 3 pin connect sovitin.

Katso http://www.multiecuscan.net/SupportedVehiclesList.aspx
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

Correct but only after 1999.
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

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Correct but only after 1999.
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

to summarise then, how exactly do you reset the airbag light on, say, a 96 (pre obd2) model?
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

Thanks for the detailed answer and link. I have a OBD2 scanner ... but likely this will not work with Barchetta model 1998? And is it possible to make DIy version of 16-3 pin adapter?

and the google Finnish is also full of errors ... but can be understood if one tries hard.
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

I had to get my Barchetta trough yearly inspection yesterday ... I could not reset the alarm so instead I modified the "meter panel" (sorry s130 ... I do not know the word) . Now the airbag light work together with oil pressure light. This needs one 2cm jumper cable and 30min time. I know, that lamp works fine, but airbags will not safe my life. I got my B trough inspection and now I need to reset the alarm before accident.
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Re: Air back alarm light on ... after seat removal

Well pekval no apology required. The word/words you were looking for are "instrument panel" or "instrument cluster".

About the Finnish translation ...... blame Google Translate!!!!!!!

Your modification to the light wiring certainly fooled your testers. You were lucky but well worth doing. I would have chosen the ABS light (if you have ABS) as then the engine does not need to be started to turn off the oil/airbag light.

About the actual airbag unit fitted to you car. There appears to be concern / confusion over what the unit is based on production date.

If you PM me (send private message via forum) with your chassis number I can tell you your cars actual production date and the original part number of your airbag control unit.

Also I suggest you disconnect the battery, leave for 20 minutes and then remove the control unit (easy to do) and take a picture/photocopy of the manufacturers label on the top of the unit. If you do this then we will know exactly what your car has fitted and then we may be able to work out what to do next.

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