Jodsclass
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Hi Everyone. This is long, so feel free to ignore.
I decided to service the 500 (2017 1.2) on Wednesday. This car is new to me this year, so it was about time it had new, decent oil & filters. Went with Castrol Edge as always used Magnatec on the panda & this looked like a better prospect for a newer engine. I've been servicing our 1.2 litre panda for over a decade and 100k miles, so this is pretty routine for me now.
Took the car for a run to get it nice & warm, parked it up at home on ramps and went to remove the sump plug. The previous garage seemed to have tightened it up so much, it just wouldn't budge. It took over an hour & in the end a very long torque wrench to get enough leverage to get it free. I let the oil run out into a pan and removed the filter. Popped inside for a coffee and to let as much drain out as possible.
I then went back outside, cleaned the oil filter housing, oiled the seal and put on the new filter. Fastened up the sump plug, removed the oil pan and rolled it backwards off the ramps, obviously without turning the engine on. By now, the block had cooled nicely, so I started adding oil. I know these take 2.8 litres in total, with 300 ml normally for the filter and 2.5 litre for the rest of then engine. I always measure out a full 2.8 litres, knowing I probably won't need it all, but at least I know the exact amount it can theoretically take. With the panda, I normally find that 2.6 litres gets it just below the max mark on the stick, so some old oil must remain present in some parts of the engine. I added around 2.5–2.6 litres and checked the stick, it was absolutely caked in oil. Tried to get a decent read, but not a chance. I left it for a few hours to settle & checked again, still oil everywhere. I started the car and let it warm up and circulate the oil. Turned it off, let it cool & checked again, still way over the top of the dip stick.
I decided to get back underneath the car & drain some off. Never easy, but I’ve done it before with a gloved hand & some well-timed sump plug easing, letting it run out slowly before screwing back in finger tight and then cleaning up. I drained off 380ml of oil into a measuring jug. Lowered the car again, waited a little while & took a reading. It was now nearly at maximum on the dipstick.
By my calculations, with the removal of some oil, I’ve only put 2.2 litres of new oil into the car. Where the heck has the other 500-600ml of old oil hidden in this engine where it doesn't in my pandas? I’ve been running around for a few days, carrying oil in the car & checking periodically, and the level is still unmoved at just below maximum.
This has baffled me, as I’ve never experienced it before & the engine is less than 40k. Anyone had a similar experience?
Also, while I'm at it, can anyone link me to the correct leads/unit for multiscan somewhere online, so I can reset the service indicator.
Honestly, I'm glad I drained it off, because it would have been running with at least 300ml too much oil in there.
I decided to service the 500 (2017 1.2) on Wednesday. This car is new to me this year, so it was about time it had new, decent oil & filters. Went with Castrol Edge as always used Magnatec on the panda & this looked like a better prospect for a newer engine. I've been servicing our 1.2 litre panda for over a decade and 100k miles, so this is pretty routine for me now.
Took the car for a run to get it nice & warm, parked it up at home on ramps and went to remove the sump plug. The previous garage seemed to have tightened it up so much, it just wouldn't budge. It took over an hour & in the end a very long torque wrench to get enough leverage to get it free. I let the oil run out into a pan and removed the filter. Popped inside for a coffee and to let as much drain out as possible.
I then went back outside, cleaned the oil filter housing, oiled the seal and put on the new filter. Fastened up the sump plug, removed the oil pan and rolled it backwards off the ramps, obviously without turning the engine on. By now, the block had cooled nicely, so I started adding oil. I know these take 2.8 litres in total, with 300 ml normally for the filter and 2.5 litre for the rest of then engine. I always measure out a full 2.8 litres, knowing I probably won't need it all, but at least I know the exact amount it can theoretically take. With the panda, I normally find that 2.6 litres gets it just below the max mark on the stick, so some old oil must remain present in some parts of the engine. I added around 2.5–2.6 litres and checked the stick, it was absolutely caked in oil. Tried to get a decent read, but not a chance. I left it for a few hours to settle & checked again, still oil everywhere. I started the car and let it warm up and circulate the oil. Turned it off, let it cool & checked again, still way over the top of the dip stick.
I decided to get back underneath the car & drain some off. Never easy, but I’ve done it before with a gloved hand & some well-timed sump plug easing, letting it run out slowly before screwing back in finger tight and then cleaning up. I drained off 380ml of oil into a measuring jug. Lowered the car again, waited a little while & took a reading. It was now nearly at maximum on the dipstick.
By my calculations, with the removal of some oil, I’ve only put 2.2 litres of new oil into the car. Where the heck has the other 500-600ml of old oil hidden in this engine where it doesn't in my pandas? I’ve been running around for a few days, carrying oil in the car & checking periodically, and the level is still unmoved at just below maximum.
This has baffled me, as I’ve never experienced it before & the engine is less than 40k. Anyone had a similar experience?
Also, while I'm at it, can anyone link me to the correct leads/unit for multiscan somewhere online, so I can reset the service indicator.
Honestly, I'm glad I drained it off, because it would have been running with at least 300ml too much oil in there.