You should get an early oil n filter change done around 5k and make sure they use the correct oil!
Sorry Peter, dident cop yours was a diesel!
You should get an early oil n filter change done around 5k and make sure they use the correct oil!
There were some issues around this particularly when the TA changed from Euro 5 to Euro 6 in 2014, there were reports of garages not using the correct grade of oil, the TA is sensitive to this by virtue of its design. E5 cars took 5W40 and E6 (current) are 0W30. I had an earlyish oil change done at 10K and they used 5W40 as in fairness thats what the Fiat system quoted going by my VIN despite my manual quoting 0W! Anyway the car dident like it at all particularly on start up so they changed it to 0W and all was good, the confusion came from the fact my car was built in Dec 13 and delivered Jan 14 so there were doubts as to whether it was E5 or 6, it since has been proven its E6. Its getting a 2 year service tomorrow at 19.5 K so it'll get a fresh dose! In your case its much clearer as your Cross is definitely E6 so the corect oil is Selenia Digitek 0W30 and I presume thats what your manual states? It comes in a red bottle. TBH I think the wrong oil thing has probably washed out by now but its worth checking for your own peace of mind. A change at 1000 miles seems a bit excessive I would have thought but around 5K makes sense and then annually thereafter if your not doing huge mileage.
Hi Peter,
I would double check your manual just to be sure.
I haven't heard of the schedule being specifically 18,000 miles or each year (annual oil/filter services usually mandatory for low mileage cars), but seeing as yours is a diesel it may well be the case.
Don't want you to be caught out
Is it a TwinAir or a Diesel?!
Seriously though, I think SuperUwe was just trying to be helpful, and actually he's right because the interval has never been 1 year or 18,000 miles. For petrol engines it was 2 years or 18,000 miles until part-way through 2014, but it then changed to 1 year or 9000 miles for an inspection which doesn't include an oil change, then another year or until the car completed 18,000 miles (whichever comes first) when the car needs its first proper service with oil change.
As has been suggested already, it's not a bad idea for the oil & filter to be changed at the inspection at 9000 miles too, especially as the car's already at the garage.
Just to complicate matters, cars completing less than 6000 miles a year are meant to get an oil/filter in any case. Why Fiat couldn't just put everything on 1 year/12,000 mile intervals like some other companies instead of this mess, I dunno
In case of any misunderstanding, I think everyone has been helpful here.
Thanks for these clarifications.
Mine was in today. ECU update applied, service counter reset, car washed.
Receipt says 5/40 oil used but they assure me it was the correct 0/30.
Receipt doesn't mention oil filter. I hope / assume they did that automatically?
No fault found on the squeaky clutch pedal (still does it) so I guess I need to get busy with the lube Clutch pedal rubber replaced though
Not aware of the brake dampener kit........
Car is back in next week to have the rear skid pan replaced.
I guess I'll find out at cold start tomorrow. What about the oil filter though?
On the upside, the re-active the Pan European breakdown cover, giving you the same cover as the first year.
This is zero cost
Mine was in today. ECU update applied, service counter reset, car washed.
Receipt says 5/40 oil used but they assure me it was the correct 0/30.
Receipt doesn't mention oil filter. I hope / assume they did that automatically?
No fault found on the squeaky clutch pedal (still does it) so I guess I need to get busy with the lube Clutch pedal rubber replaced though
Not aware of the brake dampener kit........
Car is back in next week to have the rear skid pan replaced.
Mine was in today. ECU update applied, service counter reset, car washed.
Receipt says 5/40 oil used but they assure me it was the correct 0/30.
Receipt doesn't mention oil filter. I hope / assume they did that automatically?
No fault found on the squeaky clutch pedal (still does it) so I guess I need to get busy with the lube Clutch pedal rubber replaced though
Not aware of the brake dampener kit........
Car is back in next week to have the rear skid pan replaced.
Just collected my Cross TA from Desira, Norwich after it's 18,000 mile service. I've been very impressed with their service over the past five years or so. Always courteous, explain everything they have done, valet the car inside and out and the nice surprise was the free 12 months roadside assistance. Servicing check list is clear that they used Selenia Digitek 0W-30 oil.
TRUE -While I agree that it is necessary to use oil of the right 'thickness/viscosity (the 0W30 bit), I do still find it interesting that people worry of it is or is not made by Selena.
My other car is a Volvo V50. This has a 1.6 diesel engine that is made by Ford and shared with Peugeot/Citroen (and others, including LandRover and Mazda). It actually says "Peugeot" on some parts of the the engine, and FoMoCo on others.
Point of this? Every car maker that uses this engine specifies their own, but different, brand of oil to use with it. This is because most car makes have a 'connection' to a particular company, either through ownership or by effectively a sponsorship arrangement. Ford recommend their own, Volvo recommend Castrol, Peugeot recommend Elf Oils. The brand will not affect your car, but the wrong grade will. Selena Oils are made by a company Fiat/Chrysler has a controlling share in, so of course they say 'use our oils' - they get more of your money that way. AS well as just the viscosity rating, there are additional specs
But take a look at the oil specs for the new Jeep Renegade (which is the same car as the 500X, made by Fiat, with Fiat engines, in Fiat owned factories... In the US you cannot be 'prescriptive' with a brand name, only a spec. Here's what Jeep say (not no Selena oils there, and plenty I bet you never heard of before)
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"We recommend you use SAE 5W-40 API Certified Synthetic Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of FCA US Material Standard MS-12991 such as MOPAR, Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your Amazon.com: engine+oil+filler+cap: Automotive for correct SAE grade."
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