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Technical Panda 2008 P0520 the car won't start and makes no sound when turning the key
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Technical Panda 2008 P0520 the car won't start and makes no sound when turning the key
Opened the door and tried again. Yeah I guess there is some quiet buzzing and lasts few seconds so that must be fine
Im THINKING stuck starter motor.. or a broken circuit
So.. you appear to have a good battery,
Fuel pump runs.. but engine doesnt turn over on the Starter
Wait the 5 seconds while that fuel pump whirrs in the rear..
Watch the RED lights on the dashboard
Now turn the Key.. do the Red lights go dim..?? Or stay bright ( uneffected by the key)
So.. you appear to have a good battery,
Fuel pump runs.. but engine doesnt turn over on the Starter
Wait the 5 seconds while that fuel pump whirrs in the rear..
Watch the RED lights on the dashboard
Now turn the Key.. do the Red lights go dim..?? Or stay bright ( uneffected by the key)
A little bit hard for me to jump in and out as my lock is damaged(someone tried to break in but failed lol). I did pay attention to the lights. Just the check engine stays on, but I think it's always on until you turn the engine on. No red lights as far as I can remeber(I think some of them turn on, but then off shortly after I switch the power on)Im THINKING stuck starter motor.. or a broken circuit
So.. you appear to have a good battery,
Fuel pump runs.. but engine doesnt turn over on the Starter
Wait the 5 seconds while that fuel pump whirrs in the rear..
Watch the RED lights on the dashboard
Now turn the Key.. do the Red lights go dim..?? Or stay bright ( uneffected by the key)
the engine check light should be on
but its not correct that its the only one
oil pressure light and hand brake should be on also
Possible my mistake and I remembered wrong. Went to the car to record a video of it
can you hear a click from the engine bay as you turn the key to crank the car
Possibly the video I posted above will answer that, but it is completly quiet
looks slightly wrong to me
the oil pressure normally stay lit until you crank but my dash is different
probably why you have a P0520 error
you do have oil in the car ????
other than this it tell us quite a bit is working ABS, EPS, IMMO, 5 volt ref and so on
By oil pressure do you mean the red dot or the oil icon? On the video I turned the key once to turn the power on and let it 'load' and they after everything stabilized I tried to crank the engine. The oil icon stayed on until I tried to start the engine.
the other half of the video is me trying to start it straigt away without letting it 'load'.
right i think we are getting somewhere
as long as the the engine has oil and the engine is not seized
we are moving forward..
No click from the solenoid no power to the starter motor no crank
i am not overly worried at the moment. Maybe i am wrong. My car starts within a second
as long as the the engine has oil and the engine is not seized
we are moving forward..
No click from the solenoid no power to the starter motor no crank
My mate also suggested that I connect the battery to the motor using a jump lead to test the connection(I think? not sure if I got it right). Is that something I can do? Any idea where the motor is located in my car more or less?
you need to check fuse 23
right at the back of the engine near the battery
Thanks, will do in the morning. I will make sure to update.
get someone to listen near the battery while you try and crank
no click here and the fault will be
weak battery
poor ground
ignition switch
starter motor
break in the small brown wire
F23 must be okay as the body computer still powers on
My first test would be to check battery voltage is present on the brown wire at the D004 connector with a volt/multi meter while cranking
no click here and the fault will be
weak battery
poor ground
ignition switch
starter motor
break in the small brown wire
F23 must be okay as the body computer still powers on
My first test would be to check battery voltage is present on the brown wire at the D004 connector with a volt/multi meter while cranking
Sorry about the delay, was a little busy.
Tried connecting netural to the greabox and then to the chasis, like someone mentioned in the thread, but that didn't work. I am trying to find someone to come and fix it, but in the meanwhile I would also like to try connecting bettery directly to the starter, but I have hard time location it. Could anyone advise where it is? I have googled some photos of how it should look like, but I am unable to locate it from above.
Tried connecting netural to the greabox and then to the chasis, like someone mentioned in the thread, but that didn't work. I am trying to find someone to come and fix it, but in the meanwhile I would also like to try connecting bettery directly to the starter, but I have hard time location it. Could anyone advise where it is? I have googled some photos of how it should look like, but I am unable to locate it from above.
Access from above : NO
From below : possible but awkward
Starter is bolted to Gearbox..AT REAR of engine
not sure what this will achieve
Bolts in here.
and looks like this as you can see its well covered with a black cover which can only be removed from underneath
Here I am testing the alternator you want the solid brown wire and a 2 minute check and accessible from the top
if its getting battery voltage while cranking you can sometime free them up with a tap from broom handle or something similar while some tries to crank
if its not getting battery voltage it like to be the ignition switch
Bolts in here.
and looks like this as you can see its well covered with a black cover which can only be removed from underneath
Here I am testing the alternator you want the solid brown wire and a 2 minute check and accessible from the top
if its getting battery voltage while cranking you can sometime free them up with a tap from broom handle or something similar while some tries to crank
if its not getting battery voltage it like to be the ignition switch
@Malisz
Thats 3 different people suggesting the correct action.. test and replace the Earth circuit
What method did you employ with your friend to rule out the Main Earth Cable ?
( I have yet to see one of mine fail.. so am keen to learn of potential pitfalls)
