Hi there Folks,
A quick post before I get ready for work tomoz. I'm in the middle of a Multipla 1.9 JTD clutch replacement, following:
Notes for Novices by SillyBilly
and
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/190204-diy-guide-clutch-replacement.html by bikes-for-me
also just discovered:
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/325710-clutch-replacement-additional-notes.html by bplee459
(lifting eye in the slave cylinder bolts -brilliant!)
You can follow my previous Multipla clutch history on threads:
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/327242-fiat-multipla-jtd-unable-gear-change.html
and then (inevitably)...
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/335610-fiat-multipla-clutch-broken.html
My Multipla has been sitting forlorn outside my house for the last 3 months with - I assume - a broken clutch. No money up till now to fix it. The cheapest local garage quoted me £240 labour to do the clutch (which is reasonable) but that didn't include a tow to the garage (£30) so at least £270 + parts for the repair, which if the DMF needs doing = £270 + Clutch kit £70 + DMF £250 = £600 approx. AND THEN... it has to be MOT'd, and who knows what they'll find. So I thought there's some good instructions on the Fiat Forum website, why don't I at least take the thing to bits and have a look at the clutch damage and replace it if I can, possibly leave the DMF till later, get the ugly bug moving again, take it for an MOT and decide from there whether to keep or scrap. I'd hate to spend £600 on a full clutch repair and then find at the MOT it's not worth keeping and I've wasted 600 quid. If I do the repair myself minus the DMF the worst I'll have to fork out I reckon is about £125 = clutch kit + tools and bits and bobs.
I am repairing it on a normal street with quite a camber ie. drops down towards the gutter, which might be useful when manoeuvring the bellhousing out? Will find out. Any thoughts folks? err. the car is level on one axle stand at the mo' in case you were wondering.
I started this weekend and I'm up to about Page 14 in Notes for Novices. Most of the engine bay stuff is done. The air intake bolts are seized solid, it's still attached. Today I had a helluva job getting the front exhaust off, the two bolts connecting to the middle box came out ok but were VERY tight, one of the three bolts at the front came off nice and easy without damage, but the other two refused to budge. Absolutely seized solid. Think I read on Notes for Novices that he/she mangled these nuts -so did !
My method was to junior hacksaw vertically through the flanged? nuts keeping close to the bolt, until I hit the exhaust flange, chisel away the loose piece, and then whack the remainder of the nut anticlockwise (to undo obviously) with a big screwdriver and hammer. Which worked, what a relief. However, a warning to anyone trying this method, I may have damaged the bolt threads a bit, but I thought **** it, if I cant get the exhaust off I'm snookered, I can always get fresh exhaust bolts put on at a later date. But very satisfying to overcome the difficulty and complete this step, I'm sure you know the feeling.
If I can give one piece of advice, which I didn't follow... if you're going to junior hacksaw something really difficult, don't be a tight wad like me and use a 10 year old saw with a 10 year old knackered blade. Before the event Today I was actually in Homebase looking at a pack of hardened steel junior hacksaw blades going "Hmmm... two pounds 99 pence", no I'll be fine !!!
And don't buy a £1 Junior Hacksaw with 2 Spare Blades from Poundland which wouldn't hacksaw though a bar of melted chocolate. I'm sure that with the knackered old saw blade I used it didn't actually cut through the exhaust nut, I just generated so much friction running it back and forth it melted the steel !!
Well that's enough for now. I'm aching all over -do mechanics do this sort of thing EVERY working day???
Hope to keep you posted on progress. Hope to complete Part 2 this coming weekend. Got my 2 by 3 piece of timber from Homebase, luggage straps and god knows what else for the bellhousing lowering operation. Oooh errr...
Wish me luck.
Mark X
A quick post before I get ready for work tomoz. I'm in the middle of a Multipla 1.9 JTD clutch replacement, following:
Notes for Novices by SillyBilly
and
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/190204-diy-guide-clutch-replacement.html by bikes-for-me
also just discovered:
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/325710-clutch-replacement-additional-notes.html by bplee459
(lifting eye in the slave cylinder bolts -brilliant!)
You can follow my previous Multipla clutch history on threads:
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/327242-fiat-multipla-jtd-unable-gear-change.html
and then (inevitably)...
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/335610-fiat-multipla-clutch-broken.html
My Multipla has been sitting forlorn outside my house for the last 3 months with - I assume - a broken clutch. No money up till now to fix it. The cheapest local garage quoted me £240 labour to do the clutch (which is reasonable) but that didn't include a tow to the garage (£30) so at least £270 + parts for the repair, which if the DMF needs doing = £270 + Clutch kit £70 + DMF £250 = £600 approx. AND THEN... it has to be MOT'd, and who knows what they'll find. So I thought there's some good instructions on the Fiat Forum website, why don't I at least take the thing to bits and have a look at the clutch damage and replace it if I can, possibly leave the DMF till later, get the ugly bug moving again, take it for an MOT and decide from there whether to keep or scrap. I'd hate to spend £600 on a full clutch repair and then find at the MOT it's not worth keeping and I've wasted 600 quid. If I do the repair myself minus the DMF the worst I'll have to fork out I reckon is about £125 = clutch kit + tools and bits and bobs.
I am repairing it on a normal street with quite a camber ie. drops down towards the gutter, which might be useful when manoeuvring the bellhousing out? Will find out. Any thoughts folks? err. the car is level on one axle stand at the mo' in case you were wondering.
I started this weekend and I'm up to about Page 14 in Notes for Novices. Most of the engine bay stuff is done. The air intake bolts are seized solid, it's still attached. Today I had a helluva job getting the front exhaust off, the two bolts connecting to the middle box came out ok but were VERY tight, one of the three bolts at the front came off nice and easy without damage, but the other two refused to budge. Absolutely seized solid. Think I read on Notes for Novices that he/she mangled these nuts -so did !
My method was to junior hacksaw vertically through the flanged? nuts keeping close to the bolt, until I hit the exhaust flange, chisel away the loose piece, and then whack the remainder of the nut anticlockwise (to undo obviously) with a big screwdriver and hammer. Which worked, what a relief. However, a warning to anyone trying this method, I may have damaged the bolt threads a bit, but I thought **** it, if I cant get the exhaust off I'm snookered, I can always get fresh exhaust bolts put on at a later date. But very satisfying to overcome the difficulty and complete this step, I'm sure you know the feeling.
If I can give one piece of advice, which I didn't follow... if you're going to junior hacksaw something really difficult, don't be a tight wad like me and use a 10 year old saw with a 10 year old knackered blade. Before the event Today I was actually in Homebase looking at a pack of hardened steel junior hacksaw blades going "Hmmm... two pounds 99 pence", no I'll be fine !!!
And don't buy a £1 Junior Hacksaw with 2 Spare Blades from Poundland which wouldn't hacksaw though a bar of melted chocolate. I'm sure that with the knackered old saw blade I used it didn't actually cut through the exhaust nut, I just generated so much friction running it back and forth it melted the steel !!
Well that's enough for now. I'm aching all over -do mechanics do this sort of thing EVERY working day???
Hope to keep you posted on progress. Hope to complete Part 2 this coming weekend. Got my 2 by 3 piece of timber from Homebase, luggage straps and god knows what else for the bellhousing lowering operation. Oooh errr...
Wish me luck.
Mark X