i have been looking into getting my stilo lowered and have been looking at the eibach kits

Sportline kit:
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=4018983

Pro kit:
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=4019854

out of these two kits which would you reccomend or what are the pros and cons of each as i have heard that the pro kit gives a much harsher
ride, but would this be made up for with greater improved handling?
also would i benefit any more with a strutt brace aswell as these?

thanks simon

I don't recall what model Eibach springs I put on my old stilo but they were a 30mm drop. These transformed the ride without making the car look chav. They were certainly not harsh, in fact, at the time I had just gone through a level two spinal fusion yet the ride was perfectly acceptable. Of all the Stilo mods available I would say the springs are the most effective and worthwhile upgrade unless you have a JTD then it would be a remap.

thanks for that will definately be getting one of those 2 kits now. i will be getting remap soon, but thought i would get advice on springs aswell as i will be doing them very soon after

Just noticed you have a Mjet. Then a remap would be first on my list then the springs. Your'e gonna have some fun.

Hi haven't posted In a while. Do a search for post I did a while ago telling my tale of mods to my stilo. I'm on my iPod at the moment so searching for it wil be a pain. Basically go for the pro kit and dampers. Find my post and all will be clear. Both make the car amazing to drive.

i have the pro -30mm and would stick at that,caught the plastic under tray a few times on speed bumps, the brick ones seem worse.most will advise you needing uprated shocks as well if you go -40mm /-50mm drop.

porlus said:

Hi haven't posted In a while. Do a search for post I did a while ago telling my tale of mods to my stilo. I'm on my iPod at the moment so searching for it wil be a pain. Basically go for the pro kit and dampers. Find my post and all will be clear. Both make the car amazing to drive.

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found thread very good advice thank you will start saving a bit more after remap

sussexa said:

i have the pro -30mm and would stick at that,caught the plastic under tray a few times on speed bumps, the brick ones seem worse.most will advise you needing uprated shocks as well if you go -40mm /-50mm drop.

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i am only planning 30mm as undertray is quite a lot lower than the bottom of the bumper. and the eibachs only do 30mm but as porlus has proved in his thread up rated dampers are a very good idea and will prove most beneficial

Eibach Pro System. 30 mm drop at max with matched dampers. Look at my excellent guide in the guides section...

I have the Eibach pro kit on mine but with the standard shocks. The ride height looks alot more "acceptable" without being any less usable. Both my brothers don't even know i've had my car lowered. Not unless they spot the red springs...

I've got Sportlines and went for them due to the lightness of the engine I have. The 30mm drop the Pro kit would've given, wouldn't have been as noticeable. The ride is harsher certainly than standard, but handling is amazing. That said, I'm on Eibach dampers as well now as anything over 30mm and the standard shocks should ideally be replaced to get the best out of the springs. Plus, the standard shocks weren't really designed to take a 50mm drop, though some (Coyle for example before he got his coilovers) have gotten away with it just fine.

Pro kit should be fine with standard dampers and with the heavier diesel engine, it should be a noticeable drop. Plus, you shouldn't need to get the Eibach dampers. Unless yours are on their last legs of course.

muppet42 said:

Plus, the standard shocks weren't really designed to take a 50mm drop, though some (Coyle for example before he got his coilovers) have gotten away with it just fine.

Pro kit should be fine with standard dampers and with the heavier diesel engine, it should be a noticeable drop. Plus, you shouldn't need to get the Eibach dampers. Unless yours are on their last legs of course.

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The standard dampers are only really happy when matched to the correct springs (that shouldn't surprise anyone as Fiat did design the car that way).

As many report, you can get away with a 30mm drop if the car is used mainly on good surfaces but the handling is still likely to fall off on poor surface (as some members have reported)

Handling on a 35mm drop with standard dampers is dire (I speak from experience :doh although admittedly that wasn't on Eibach springs.

Anyone going lower and expecting good handling without changing dampers are completely deluding themselves :shakehead:

Change the springs WITH matched dampers and that should all change

B3NN377 said:

i have been looking into getting my stilo lowered and have been looking at the eibach kits

Sportline kit:
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=4018983

Pro kit:
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=4019854

out of these two kits which would you reccomend or what are the pros and cons of each as i have heard that the pro kit gives a much harsher
ride, but would this be made up for with greater improved handling?
also would i benefit any more with a strutt brace aswell as these?

thanks simon

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Unless you attend regular track days, then I would avoid the Sportlines. They lower too much for speed bumps etc and the ride will be unacceptably hard for most, in road use. ProKit springs will work with standard dampers, but TBH unless they are very new, it makes sense to change the dampers when you fit the new springs.

The Eibach dampers are allegedly 'matched' with the springs (although Eibach don't make them). But they also work well with KONI Sport dampers, or if you're flush with money, Bilsteins.

Just my two penneth. There are fans of ProKit on here who will disagree...

Yellow Peril said:

....but TBH unless they are very new, it makes sense to change the dampers when you fit the new springs.

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To avoid any confusion on this point Phil, I'd say it would be extremely unwise to fit NEW OEM dampers with lowering springs (basically a complete waste of money )

During the 6mths I had -35mm lowering springs fitted the car would bounce all over the road on any form of bad surface. Many would conclude that the dampers are shot but they would've been completely wrong.

After removing the springs and fitting a new set of OEM springs I found the damping was just perfect. Instead of bouncing, the tyres felt glued to the road surface - it's an unmistakeable feeling on your first drive

Argonought said:

To avoid any confusion on this point Phil, I'd say it would be extremely unwise to fit NEW OEM dampers with lowering springs (basically a complete waste of money )

During the 6mths I had -35mm lowering springs fitted the car would bounce all over the road on any form of bad surface. Many would conclude that the dampers are shot but they would've been completely wrong.

After removing the springs and fitting a new set of OEM springs I found the damping was just perfect. Instead of bouncing, the tyres felt glued to the road surface - it's an unmistakeable feeling on your first drive

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I agree totally. What I was trying to say (badly) was 'why not replace the dampers at the same time the springs are changed?'

I do think that ideally the dampers should be uprated at the same time as the springs. Gets the best out of the lowering, though I never obviously had OEM dampers with lowering springs, so you'd need to take it from people who've had experience with it both positive (Coyle) and negative (Argo).

Personally with the lighter 1.2 the ride with Sportlines, though a little bouncy due to the firmness, is perfectly acceptable. My sis who's often a nervous passenger barely noticed the change until I started going round corners and RGZ didn't roll like a boat like it had done before. It's helped by having the recommended Eibach dampers of course, but I'd say it rides over the potholes and the like far better than with the OEM set up. Plus I've had no problems whatsoever with speedbumps and the like. Though again, this could be down to the lighter engine creating less of a drop.

Anyway though, I have to say it's the best modification I think I've done to the car. Still fine on a day to day basis but handles brilliantly on the twisty stuff, love it

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Plus I've had no problems whatsoever with speedbumps and the like. Though again, this could be down to the lighter engine creating less of a drop.

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Exactly what happened to my 1.6 aswell. No more speedbump grounding (nothing electical here...), and no more sick kids. I take that as a major +.