Flipin tickin & squeaking on tickover, my car going in to garage (not main dealer) on Friday, but anyone know anymore yet ? I hear it could it be the camshaft bottom pully/or a gearbox mounting or engine mount. I even went to the main dealer today as it was very noisey, but guess what after the 10 mile drive it was totally quiet on tickover. I even tried to tape the noise but it did'nt work. I am 100% sure it is not the engine, thats very quiet even just after start up. I have been all over this car (5 years old & 54K and I cant find the squeak/rattle/ticking noise you can only hear it inside the car which is mad. I have been all over the front of the outside of the car had it up on the ramps and I can find it.
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Hi Folks, this is exactly the problem I have. Did you good people find out what it is. I decided to get my timing belt, tentioner & pully done tomorrow. I am asking the mechanic to look at the crank pully, but they are another £95 from Fiat and not available from Partco, (just paid £78 for a cambelt kit, rather than £138 from Fiat). But as others have said all the belts and pulleys are on the drivers side and the noise is on the passenger side. Also the noise cant be heard anywhere outside the car at all, (with bonnet up or down, or when lying underneath when the car is ticking over on my ramps). Definetly sound like coming from behind the glovebox
Hi Folks, this is exactly the problem I have. Did you good people find out what it is. I decided to get my timing belt, tentioner & pully done tomorrow. I am asking the mechanic to look at the crank pully, but they are another £95 from Fiat and not available from Partco, (just paid £78 for a cambelt kit, rather than £138 from Fiat). But as others have said all the belts and pulleys are on the drivers side and the noise is on the passenger side. Also the noise cant be heard anywhere outside the car at all, (with bonnet up or down, or when lying underneath when the car is ticking over on my ramps). Definetly sound like coming from behind the glovebox
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Strikes me this thread is completely at cross purposes :chin:
A loose pulley by all accounts is going to be very noisy indeed and certainly noisier outside the car.
On the other hand the rattle heard inside the car sounds like the very common instrument rattle, which I must admit sounds like it IS behind the instrument cluster when I've heard it, and is certainly no threat to the engine
Strikes me this thread is completely at cross purposes :chin:
A loose pulley by all accounts is going to be very noisy indeed and certainly noisier outside the car.
On the other hand the rattle heard inside the car sounds like the very common instrument rattle, which I must admit sounds like it IS behind the instrument cluster when I've heard it, and is certainly no threat to the engine
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That is regarding the problem, yup. I think the guy who made the original post is the same guy that made this thread originally.
My JTD is still doing it. Damn noise. It's really tranquil inside the car once it's had a run, but my God it sounds like a heap when you first start it up!
I can just about make out a slight rattle from outside when the car is first started, but it's certainly not distinctive enough to be noticeable if i wernt already on the lookout from the racket going on behind the upper glove box.
Seems like a good little bunch of us are getting this problem now. Any age & mileage details of Stilos affected would be good. Mines a 54 plate Dynamic 3 door JTD, with 54,000 on the clock. Just wondered if it was age/mileage/model year specific, tho from scanning down those affected, i don't think it is, annoyingly.
Is your SuperStilo not doing it yet Argo?
That is regarding the problem, yup. I think the guy who made the original post is the same guy that made this thread originally.
My JTD is still doing it. Damn noise. It's really tranquil inside the car once it's had a run, but my God it sounds like a heap when you first start it up!
I can just about make out a slight rattle from outside when the car is first started, but it's certainly not distinctive enough to be noticeable if i wernt already on the lookout from the racket going on behind the upper glove box.
Seems like a good little bunch of us are getting this problem now. Any age & mileage details of Stilos affected would be good. Mines a 54 plate Dynamic 3 door JTD, with 54,000 on the clock. Just wondered if it was age/mileage/model year specific, tho from scanning down those affected, i don't think it is, annoyingly.
Is your SuperStilo not doing it yet Argo?
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The much louder vibration I think you're talking about is one I've noticed a few times at traffic lights (or in heavy traffic) and appears to come from the passenger side of the engine compartment. It disappears completely if you raise the revs just a little and is certainly something that would annoy me because as you say it cheapens the car. It doesn't happen that often on mine but if I did know what part might be responsible then I wouldn't hesitate to change it.
It's been reported that cleaning/moving the anti-vibration material between bonnet and bulkhead can help but this is something I've not really investigated :chin:
I've had the rattle behind the instrument cluster for years but this always goes on a long journey so never bothered to investigate it (I think it's temperature related).Is your SuperStilo not doing it yet Argo?
The much louder vibration I think you're talking about is one I've noticed a few times at traffic lights (or in heavy traffic) and appears to come from the passenger side of the engine compartment. It disappears completely if you raise the revs just a little and is certainly something that would annoy me because as you say it cheapens the car. It doesn't happen that often on mine but if I did know what part might be responsible then I wouldn't hesitate to change it.
It's been reported that cleaning/moving the anti-vibration material between bonnet and bulkhead can help but this is something I've not really investigated :chin:
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Mine's a multiwagon Dynamic on 54,000 miles and on a 53 plate (Nov 03) . Her engine is sweet and quiet, even on start up, but something else is for sure not right. I even thought of increasing the tickover speed from about 700 to 1000rpm to get rid of the problem. When cold it squeaks and rattles (only inside the car) like a 15 year old diesel, and it sounds as if its coming from behind the glovebox.
Mine's a multiwagon Dynamic on 54,000 miles and on a 53 plate (Nov 03) . Her engine is sweet and quiet, even on start up, but something else is for sure not right. I even thought of increasing the tickover speed from about 700 to 1000rpm to get rid of the problem. When cold it squeaks and rattles (only inside the car) like a 15 year old diesel, and it sounds as if its coming from behind the glovebox.
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I've had this "death rattle" on my 54 plate MW for ages. The car is currently on 105K but I seem to remember it appearing at about the 2 years old mark (35K ish). Must admit though that in the recent mild spell when outside temps have been higher its not so frequent as over the colder winter months. Really must get it up on a ramp and get the gearbox mount checked.
I've had this "death rattle" on my 54 plate MW for ages. The car is currently on 105K but I seem to remember it appearing at about the 2 years old mark (35K ish). Must admit though that in the recent mild spell when outside temps have been higher its not so frequent as over the colder winter months. Really must get it up on a ramp and get the gearbox mount checked.
I've had this rattle now for the last 6 months or so (may have been there slightly when I bought the car too), on my JTD '04 56k miles. The sticky thread reminded me to get this looked at - booked it in at my local independant garage for next Wednesday to see if they have any luck finding it on the ramps (although not holding out too much hope unless it's the engine/gearbox mounts with play in them).
It's mostly a loud squeaking (much like very loud plastic trim rubbing / shrieking noise) from directly behind the passenger side glovebox or maybe upper footwell / floorpan, but with a hint of metallic rattle/knock too. Disappears the moment I blip the throttle and reappears on idle, and is not there on hot days or when the engine is at operational temperature, so much worse in winter.
It's quite embarrasing to be honest as my last Stilo (JTD '02 70k miles) never had it at all and it makes my car sound like a battered old LDV van - hope the garage find something to go on. I'll definately let you know if they fix it! Good luck everyone lol - if the collective minds of FiatForum can't find it, there's no hope for humanity
It's mostly a loud squeaking (much like very loud plastic trim rubbing / shrieking noise) from directly behind the passenger side glovebox or maybe upper footwell / floorpan, but with a hint of metallic rattle/knock too. Disappears the moment I blip the throttle and reappears on idle, and is not there on hot days or when the engine is at operational temperature, so much worse in winter.
It's quite embarrasing to be honest as my last Stilo (JTD '02 70k miles) never had it at all and it makes my car sound like a battered old LDV van - hope the garage find something to go on. I'll definately let you know if they fix it! Good luck everyone lol - if the collective minds of FiatForum can't find it, there's no hope for humanity
The second noise you describe is the one that affects mine (and i think a fair few others). If you raise the revs to 1000rpm or over it'll stop making the noise & once the car has warmed up thoroughly, mine doesn't do it at all. Though it sounds like yours makes the noise less consistently than mine - mine will do it without fail on a cold start & will get quieter until the car is hot & then finally stop after about a 10 mile run.
This is defo like my problem. These JTDs are trying to communicate with eachother!
Its good news that yours has been doing it for a considerable number of miles without appearing to have caused any further issues. Makes me less concerned that the car is going to randomly die on me coz ive neglected to fix the noise! Definately temperature related tho i agree, thank God summer is on the way!
I've had this rattle now for the last 6 months or so (may have been there slightly when I bought the car too), on my JTD '04 56k miles. The sticky thread reminded me to get this looked at - booked it in at my local independant garage for next Wednesday to see if they have any luck finding it on the ramps (although not holding out too much hope unless it's the engine/gearbox mounts with play in them).
It's mostly a loud squeaking (much like very loud plastic trim rubbing / shrieking noise) from directly behind the passenger side glovebox or maybe upper footwell / floorpan, but with a hint of metallic rattle/knock too. Disappears the moment I blip the throttle and reappears on idle, and is not there on hot days or when the engine is at operational temperature, so much worse in winter.
It's quite embarrasing to be honest as my last Stilo (JTD '02 70k miles) never had it at all and it makes my car sound like a battered old LDV van - hope the garage find something to go on. I'll definately let you know if they fix it! Good luck everyone lol - if the collective minds of FiatForum can't find it, there's no hope for humanity
That's a damn good description fella, id tried to explain it before & just given up. Sounds like a slight incline towards 2003 cars onwards, though Argo's is 02. Mileage seems anything from 35k upwards. Certainly a few around the 50k mark (including mine) which i'll keep an eye on. Very weird!
It sometimes makes me chuckle though, coz all the Fiats ive had have had some sort of defining featute that gives them a type of character & this seems to be the one for the Stilo. If only it didn't make it sound so cr*p inside! Grrr :bang:
We'll sort it one day i'm sure!
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Could always do with knowing a good one in Manc. If you could let me know the name of the company and the address that would be great.
he's just off chester road, as you come out of town, after the junction with the mancunian way going underneath and the church on the corner, there's a left going off towards Chorlton way, as the road peels off go left immediately the garage is there. There's an MOT centre and a valeters next door.
if you have the rattle take it down, he'll fix it for you.
update on the rattle...
the problem is a rubber part on the top of the mount which has hardened, the guy showed me where, i'll post a pic when I get round to it.
What he's done is put more rubber in to make it tight.
The car is much much quieter when cold... an easy fix for what seems to be a common problem
Thanks matey, I'm trying to remember if that's Chorlton Rd., or Upper Chorlton Rd.
Quick update - I've taken the car to a local garage today to get the mounts checked, as I've noticed there is some vibration and a slight clunking/slapping sound on moderate accelerating and deccelerating. The mechanic agreed with me on the road test, and looking up on the ramps found some play in the bottom two "stabliser" mounts; he wasn't 100% that this could be causing the problems but has gone away to find a price from Fiat to replace these parts (as there appears to be no Unipart equivalent). Would anyone have any thoughts on if this might be the source of said rattle? Thanks a million in advance!!
Do you mean 'new' in the sense of a replacement one.
or is he suggesting it needs redesigning?
I´ve heard from somebody in the spanish forum that new gearbox mountings are different design than fitted in fabric...
I´ve ordered a new one for replacing mine, and let´s see if it fixes the rattle...
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You heard well. There is a new design of gearbox mountings fitted in the '04 or later stilos. It has a larger rubber part that absorbs the vibrations from the engine more effectively, thus reducing the rattle in the cabin.
If I'm not mistaking the part number for the new gearbox mount (the one just off and under the battery) is 51711216. The replacement of the mount with the new one should solve the problem.
That's rather odd then - as just reading this thread it seems the problem is most pronounced on 04 and later Stilos i.e. less common on early models.
Perhaps the new mount is so effective at absorbing vibrations that it fails very quickly in the life of the car hence making it somewhat counter productive :chin:
