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Panda (Classic) Engelbert the H reg Dark Green Sisley Progress Log

Introduction

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-cla...ng-h-reg-sisley-needs-home-5.html#post3514984

So today I took delivery of the above mentioned Sisley, who I have decided to name Engelbert after the last 3 letters of his numberplate (I always name my cars in this way). All is explained as to how he came to be in my possession from the above thread so I wont touch on that too much here but will say the seller is a very kind lady. She was understanding about the transport frustrations I had and was very honest about the condition of the car.

This first post is going to be very pic heavy by the way!! I got it and did a quick assessment (I will do a more in depth assessment tomorrow) but I am extremely pleased with the condition generally, it obviously will need work but I am prepared for this (hence the project log). It has every sisley extra apart from the grille badge and is missing two centrecaps and the horn push (I am not counting the compass in this), though I wasnt expecting there to be as much of the sisley trim etc as there is! I am in the process of compiling a list of required items too.

Required Items/work required

Side repeater indicator
Front part of Airbox assembly (or new clips)
two sisley centrecaps
Front grille sisley badge
Instrument surround (See photo)
possibly bonnet vent (there is a small crack in this but I actually dont think it matters too much)
Possibly new bonnet or just work to the bonnet
Rubber headlamp rear cover
Rubber boot seal
Refurbish wheels and new tyres
Sisley Horn Push
New Battery
Aerial
Wiring repairs (wiring next to battery at least)
Repair front seat fabric
Under bonnet screwdriver
wirebrushing and undersealing, possible welding at points
Front bullbars
rear bullbars Palio I havent forgotten about this, but will wait till funds are more available if thats cool?
Obviously a stripdown and recommissioning generally of the engine is required as it hasnt run in 4-5 years


The general condition is pretty good indeed, though some rust curing and prevention will obviously have to be done. But I gave it a quick clean and it has come up very nicely, I am struggling for things to say about it as I have so much swimming in my head at the moment with it, im overwhelmed, need to sleep to digest it all! I will let the pictures and videos do the talking (still need to upload videos)
Where it sits on the carb? Yeah usually has a flat rubber ring. Iv'e probably got one in my carb spares box. I'll have a look tonight

Thanks man, let me know!

In other news I contacted the original dealership who dont have the sales invoice as the company has passed hands quite a few times since 1990! But they are trying to contact fiat for me to help out with the original spec :) (which optional extras it had etc)

I also got a call from the radiator people, its a fleece they are sending me, perfect for winter coming in! :)
 
nice! i contacted the dealership that Talon was originally sold from but they would not even look! they just said that a car that old would not be on record. :(

nice to see you are making progress :D
i have some big progress with Fallout that i will be announcing in an hour or so's time ;)

Nice man looking forward to the video update :)
 
Thanks man, let me know!

In other news I contacted the original dealership who dont have the sales invoice as the company has passed hands quite a few times since 1990! But they are trying to contact fiat for me to help out with the original spec :) (which optional extras it had etc)

I also got a call from the radiator people, its a fleece they are sending me, perfect for winter coming in! :)

Don't have rubber ring im afraid. I'm sure somebody on here will have one.
 
I changed the diff cover and oil today, did a youtube video of the process to make it easier for others too :) Thankfully all the bolts came off really easily (only ones on the entire car I have tried so far to do so) but one sheared when refitting the diff cover :( A good couple hours work though which I am pretty pleased with, so I am taking it as a positive on the whole.

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More for my motivation rather than anything else here is the list of required items/work:

Required Items/work required

two sisley centrecaps
Repair wiring in speaker system
Front grille sisley badge
New Lockset
Various track rod ends required, still to properly assess, will do when doing brakes
Instrument surround
New Bonnet Required
Rubber boot seal (got one but still to fix boot seal
Refurbish wheels and new tyres< got place set up to do this, just waiting for the right time and funds
Aerial
Repair front seat fabric< got place set up to do this, just waiting for the right time and funds
wirebrushing, painting and undersealing, welding at points on drivers side
Front bullbars
rear bullbars
New Boot required
New bulb required in front drivers headlamp
Replace heater box< Got part just need to fit it
Remove, inspect and clean fuel tank
New Radiator< Part on order
New front brake discs and pads, general recommissioning of braking system
paint rear diff cover
remove and repair luggage rack, though getting new one made up
remove and repair sump guard
Wash, Clay bar and Polish Paint
Tax MOT and Insure and hightail it to Yorkshire for one of the @AndyPanda4x4 4x4 weekends!

If anyone can help with any of these that would be awesome, it all depends on my funds obviously though.
 
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Radiatior and new premier motor factors fleece arrived :) the radiator has a bleed screw where a hose nozzle should be, but thankfully an adapter fell out of the box and I spotted it on the ground :)

I'm loving the fleece too, it will be nice and warm in the winter and should hopefully make my videos look more professional too.
 

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dont loose that adaptor! they can be a pain to find a replacement.

save the old radiator.. a spare even though its a bit tired is still a nice thing to have. also the adaptor out of it will be fine in the new radiator if it gets lost or broken.

So the update for today is that I have managed to get the sump guard removed, which as we know had been welded on at the front about 2006 (in my opinion) I think this because of the big blobs of metal at the sides of both front brackets. As far as I could see the threads had all been sheared at some point. And yes I am aware they are captive bolts. I still need to remove the remainders of the threads and nuts, and find nuts and bolts for putting through, probably using two nuts on each to make sure they don't slip.

The reason I have quoted you John is because I can't figure out how to "@" your username because it has a space in it. I was wondering your opinion if indeed this has been welded and your thoughts on it? My thoughts are that while that would be a quick easy fix its not a long term useful solution as if you need to do something with the sump guard removed (such as replacing the sump for example) this would hinder you considerably if you don't have a grinder (like me, two hacksaws and about 2 hours all told.

In the heat of the moment I did a somewhat rant based video on it and I am debating whether or not to post it or whether to sleep on it :ROFLMAO:.
 

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If not then you would need to remove the captive nuts and ideally weld on some new ones. Not very easy unless you have the right equipment.
...or just drill through and make new m8 or better m10 threads and buy new bolts, works fine:)
 
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