Panda My Green Panda!.

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LOL dad made me sell all my cinq wheels

They where in the back garden for months.

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Nice and clean!







Also had the MOT on wednesday, failed on a rear shock.
So got both them replaced now, and retest on saturday

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Nice.

Why block out in inspection authoritry details when I can just get them from your MOT number though

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I love the Panda in this colour! It would look great with the multispoke wheels from the 500

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Good at 160 thousand miles Fiats must be good with their engines

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mariataif said:

Good at 160 thousand miles Fiats must be good with their engines

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The FIRE engines have always been known to be good mile munchers

Plan to change the clutch this week! Any advice? :worship:

You can get the kit by LuK (people on here told me they are better than Genuine!) for £50 on eBay, mine arrived the other day.

Here's the link:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LuK-Compl...h=item2a6c5c6d7a:g:Gm8AAOSwGtNXiLAP#vi-ilComp

Here's an alignment tool (I bought this one too)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clutch-Al...hash=item3d1faeaef4:m:mkzA71SMty6qliYPWofqE7w

Three tins of clutch / brake cleaner, why not!
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/en...clutch-fluid/wynns-brake-clutch-cleaner-500ml

Bought all of this, doing ours on Friday apparently

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Plan to change the clutch this week! Any advice? :worship:

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Plan to change the clutch and also change the gearbox input shaft bearing. The latter was known on older cars to leak oil and ruin new clutches. Probably the irritation of fitting the new clutch was just enough to finish off an already wobbling bearing and seal.

Info here for the Punto Mk2 but it's much the same.
https://www.fiatforum.com/punto-ii/158346-input-shaft-bearing-renewal.html

The guy who posted the thread had problems getting his old oil seal out of the casing. There are two ways.

1 - Drill the seal and screw in a self tapping screw - ideally two at opposite sides. Lever the seal out with a small crowbar under the self tapper screw heads. Tap the new seal in around the rim keeping it as square as possible. Some say to use a well fitting socket spanner but that can distort the seal's metal inner ring.

2 - If you have access to the inside of the casing, find a socket just small enough to fit behind the seal. Fit the long extension bar and whack the seal out. One good thump should do it.

If you have to resort to a drift from the inside take care to keep the seal square. Damage to the machined seal hole could cause oil leaks. Unlikely, agreed, but there's no need to bosh it out.

Thanks, great help DaveMcT


Before I start on that I checked over the rear axle..
Considering ages and mileage it looked pretty decent! So just have it a anti rust coat an some paint.




Bit of a mess but its just a daily use and a abuse car so doesn't need to be show ready.
It did win a concourse though in 2011? I think.

gearbox removal begins...



Thought I had all the bolts and but couldn't get it off... missed this little locator stud that goes though to near the starter motor was..
SB1500 Don't miss this one! wasted about half hour!


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ON! Just need to resemble the engine bay tomorrow and pray it still works. :worship:

It looks mad!!!

Really hope it works for you.

We're doing mines on Friday night!!!

Very very interesting to see, thanks for taking the time to post.

I've three tins of clutch cleaner to clean it all up.

What seal glue are you using to reassemble it out of interest?

I ordered Loctite 518 but if it's not here by Friday will have to use a locally available product instead

Please let us know if the improvements you made fix the original problems too in regards to the gears.

I know I've a grinding noise which we think is the input bearing as well as the Slave cylinder and selector fork to fit to get rid of a creaking noise.

Is the box intimidating to understand once cracked open?

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Please let us know if the improvements you made fix the original problems too in regards to the gears.

I know I've a grinding noise which we think is the input bearing as well as the Slave cylinder and selector fork to fit to get rid of a creaking noise.

Is the box intimidating to understand once cracked open?

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Doesn't get much more scary then removing the gear box witch having not really any mechanical experience other then service stuff previously was fairly scary.

It only took about 5hours for me to do this with help from my dad who at this point he struggles to move really

Considering we where quoted £450 to have this done at a garage it was well worth giving a go!

Just really hope it works.



The old clutch must have had a lot of miles on it! because the "diaphragm" spring had worn over half way though and the springs in the clutch plate seemed really loose.

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Doesn't get much more scary then removing the gear box witch having not really any mechanical experience other then service stuff previously was fairly scary.

It only took about 5hours for me to do this with help from my dad who at this point he struggles to move really

Considering we where quoted £450 to have this done at a garage it was well worth giving a go!

Just really hope it works.



The old clutch must have had a lot of miles on it! because the "diaphragm" spring had worn over half way though and the springs in the clutch plate seemed really loose.

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Very excited to hear the results of your job.

Us Fiat owners are doing a good job of helping eachother and saving eachother hundreds, and I owe all my thanks to the forum. One of the best things about the car ownership is this site

We'll be likely starting tomorrow (Friday) night at 7.

We're going to have four axel stands, and hopefully this'll be high enough!

To be fair, even if you totally f*cked it up, for about £200 you can get a reconditioned gearbox and fit it yourself, and salvage parts from the one you have and STILL spend less than the £450 for fitting - but I don't think you'll need to.

My uncle whose helping me has a lot of handy experience with cars, but never with the gear box. Why resist a challenge but?!

I'm not sure the condition of my clutch, but with creaks, leaks and bunny hops and grinding noises under load all signs point toward giving it a good recondition best we can.

won't be too happy if the gearbox is fine and I've wasted the money, but still great experience learning how to change a clutch. I imagine the procedure is the same for many new petrol fiats and maybe in the future I can do it again

How was your flywheel? Some people said to me I'll need to get it flattened if it's ruined :'(

Flywheels complete with clutch are £50 on eBay. Hardly worth having the old one machined.

Gearboxes are about £200 to £250. But you can get reconditioned boxes fitted for not much more at these people (various locations) http://www.mandttransmissions.co.uk/gearboxes_sheffield.html

Input shafts seem to be in short supply but you could talk to M&T Transmissions. It's not hard to DIY fit the input shaft.

It works perfectly! Very happy!

Gave the fleet a clean and back to work tomorrow






Want to get back under it and get some of it painted up, noticed the front arches where it didn't get wax oiled are starting to flake (the bits that are usually the same color as the car), But i'll leave it a week or two, as long as its done before winter comes, at least the axle looks safe!

Dammit. We're more concerned with the whole 'ordering it tomorrow means no car until Wednesday next week' thing. :-/ Hence my big thread asking everyone what I should order.. hope we don't have any problems!

Nice fleet you have there tenpastnine, how is the Sandero compared to your Fiats?

Dacia is my jump ship brand should Fiat ever go in a direction I don't like (e.g. too German, big, expensive and powerful) haha