Technical Using the Headlamp stalk for other functions

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Technical Using the Headlamp stalk for other functions

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I'm fitting some extra very low voltage LEDs to the interior cab which I want to be activated when I turn on the headlamps...not the side lights. I can obviously splice into the headlamp feeds up front then run cables through the firewall, but what about using the headlamp stalk as a donor connection? Before I get my hammer and piece of string out, is taking the stalk apart difficult and is it a likely component to use given the function is activated by a twist switch?
 
Firstly, don't double-post. it creates multiple threads, wasting space and effort and can cause confusion. If you want to trigger something when headlamps are turned on, you'll almost certainly have to take the signal from the headlamps. But only use it as a signal. If you use the voltage to power anything the bulb failure system will see the increased current usage and flag a fault.
 
I'm fitting some extra very low voltage LEDs to the interior cab which I want to be activated when I turn on the headlamps...not the side lights. I can obviously splice into the headlamp feeds up front then run cables through the firewall, but what about using the headlamp stalk as a donor connection? Before I get my hammer and piece of string out, is taking the stalk apart difficult and is it a likely component to use given the function is activated by a twist switch?

hi, what spec panda..?:confused:

it may be better to just use an Ign. feed for DRL type lights.
 
I'm fitting some extra very low voltage LEDs to the interior cab which I want to be activated when I turn on the headlamps...not the side lights. I can obviously splice into the headlamp feeds up front then run cables through the firewall, but what about using the headlamp stalk as a donor connection? Before I get my hammer and piece of string out, is taking the stalk apart difficult and is it a likely component to use given the function is activated by a twist switch?

Double poster!? Uuuuummmm! :p

You must learn the power of the relay young one! Signal from stalk, turn on relay, power epic attachment, signals not cross they don't! Keep fuses happy! Mmmhmm!

Attaching devices, not part of vehicle, to existing OEM parts is the way to the dark side. And anarchy. And global warming!
 
It's a doblo cargo. What is DRL?
Daytime Running Lights
:confused:

¿Que?

I have not the feintest wot u r torking abat. Are you sober?

Translation:
Do not use any supplies of the car to directly power any addition. Use it only to trigger a relay.

The currents switched at the column stalk are very low, possibly only 5v anyway. I think the column switch is just a series of earths, via different resistances. The ECU reads the voltage drop and uses this as a signal to operate whatever is requested. This can occasionally bring strange results.
(Vauxhall on the Mk5 Astra, 2004 on, had issues where the horn switch raised the radio volume instead.) So splicing into anything from the column switch will bring disappointment.

With CanBUS, the car functions are triggered and monitored by the ECU using small wires and small currents. These are not power feeds. To find a power feed, you need to get close to the fed unit, in your case the headlamps, so you need to splice into a wire close to the headlamp, where you know it is a 12v supply. But do not use this as a feed to your additional lamps. The ECU will monitor the current along this wire, and throw up a fault warning if it is wrong. Instead use this to trigger a relay, so only a small added current, which should be acceptable to the ECU. Then the relay will take battery voltage to the additional unit you are fitting. Ensure your new feed is fused.
 
Daytime Running Lights


Translation:
Do not use any supplies of the car to directly power any addition. Use it only to trigger a relay.

The currents switched at the column stalk are very low, possibly only 5v anyway. I think the column switch is just a series of earths, via different resistances. The ECU reads the voltage drop and uses this as a signal to operate whatever is requested. This can occasionally bring strange results.
(Vauxhall on the Mk5 Astra, 2004 on, had issues where the horn switch raised the radio volume instead.) So splicing into anything from the column switch will bring disappointment.

With CanBUS, the car functions are triggered and monitored by the ECU using small wires and small currents. These are not power feeds. To find a power feed, you need to get close to the fed unit, in your case the headlamps, so you need to splice into a wire close to the headlamp, where you know it is a 12v supply. But do not use this as a feed to your additional lamps. The ECU will monitor the current along this wire, and throw up a fault warning if it is wrong. Instead use this to trigger a relay, so only a small added current, which should be acceptable to the ECU. Then the relay will take battery voltage to the additional unit you are fitting. Ensure your new feed is fused.

OK now I understand! Thank you very much.
Am I allowed to ask another question here - or would that be doing the double posting thingy again? It's relating to this subject.
 
OK now I understand! Thank you very much.
Am I allowed to ask another question here - or would that be doing the double posting thingy again? It's relating to this subject.

Double-posting - don't ask the same question on more than one thread at a time. It leads to confusion, and possible conflicting answers.

Asking a similar question some time later is often better with a new thread, especially if an original thread has wandered off course. Although always a good idea to do a search first, you may find your answer.

If your new query relates to this thread, ask it here. If it is a new question, start a new post, but only one.

Hope that helps.
 
OK then. What size / rating Relay do I need and do I wire from both headlights or just one? The load is a single strip of LEDs
 
OK then. What size / rating Relay do I need and do I wire from both headlights or just one? The load is a single strip of LEDs

Any small 12V automotive relay will do. A 4 pin 20A micro relay seems to be a reasonable choice. Coil goes to one headlight (pin 1) and chassis (pin 2) . One side of contact (pin 3) goes to 12V, via a fuse (1A will do for LED lights) of course, other side of contact (pin 5 yes it's numbered 5 even though there are only 4 pins) goes to lights.

Robert G8RPI.
 
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Any small 12V automotive relay will do. A 4 pin 20A micro relay seems to be a reasonable choice. Coil goes to one headlight (pin 1) and chassis (pin 2) . One side of contact (pin 3) goes to 12V, via a fuse (1A will do for LED lights) of course, other side of contact (pin 5 yes it's numbered 5 even though there are only 4 pins) goes to lights.

Robert G8RPI.
How helpful, concise and clear was that?!!! Big thanks indeed g8rpi. (y)
 
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