Technical Twinair Poor Acceleration

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Technical Twinair Poor Acceleration

spagy86

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Noticed today while overtaking at full throttle that the acceleration was poor. It was not constant Acceleration and was almost like the turbo was ramping up and down. You could hear the whistle noise changing.

Tried with the air con off but no different, and seems to mainly happen under load, going up hill for example.

Any ideas. I think the spark plugs may need replacing anyway, but am I just clutching at straws?

Many thanks.
 
A split hose..so turbo loses its effectiveness ...

Is a relatively common issue on the 500ta

I will try and link to more info :

A different issue..


Food for thought..

Let us know what you find :)
 
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There's a turbo boost actuator next to the turbo.. that has a pipe at one end and a metal rod at the end facing the turbo. The pipe is connected to an electronic boost valve that spins and creates a vacuum, which acts on a diaphragm inside the actuator, which pulls "up" the rod, which rotates the turbo vanes to provide more boost, when you accelerate.

As the actuator pressure drops, the rod drops and the turbo blades return to "low drag" pitch to increase the flow rate of gas (since you're accelerated now and it doesn't need to apply as much boost).

Any problem with the electronic boost valve will reduce the vacuum, hence the actuator, rod movement and turbo vane pitch won't happen, and you won't get any boost.

If the pipe is split, then you won't get a vacuum inside the actuator..

If the actuator diaphragm is worn out/split, it won't move when the vacuum is applied.. and you won't get a rod movement.

If the rod is seized, then the turbo vanes won't be rotated.
If the rod is just "loose" (if the connecting pin hole has become elongated) then you can re-adjust it).

If the turbo vanes are seized, then you won't get boost.

If the problem has just appeared out of nowhere, rather than become gradually worse, then it's most likely the boost valve or the pipe.. since the valve works quite hard (it's just an electric motor) and the pipe can perish and crack and lose vacuum.... so look at those first. Actuators and turbos are more durable than garages suggest.. so look at those last. You can adjust the rod tension if it's moving but isn't acting on the turbo because of "slop".

If those check out okay (not sure how you would test the boost valve.. if it just works it doesn't mean it's sucking. It needs to suck.) then make sure the actuator rod can move. If you detach it from the turbo, you'll be able to move it (and the turbo vanes) by hand to see that they all move easily and freely.


Ralf S.
 
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