Im going to start by banging my head on the wall if you don't mind.....
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Fiat Doblo 2003 1.9 JTD sx with 115k.
its took me long enough to remember my password for this and my gosh the people behind this site are not very helpful regarding accounts at all.
This is my problem.
When i start my van from cold/hot/warm/wet/dry (any condition really) its got a tendency to just cut out. sometime s it can take 10minutes sometimes it can take 3 hours (from standing still no movement or accelerator movement) now before anybody comments about this please read what i have already done/achieved so far.
Van has been in 4 garages, the last one was a very reputable diesel specialist who only found that maybe my inertia switch was faulty (even though i have already told them I've changed it twice (once for second hand then for new) so they are stumped. i refuse to put it in another garage as i have already checked and done what they would.
I can be driving down the road and under load its bloody perfect, although the DMF is totally screwed as its judders when hard on it. it pulls good, but when just cruising and tickling the accelerator (especially in 3rd and 4th) the glow plug light comes on (while stalling/dieing/loosing power) as well as the water in fuel light sometimes (and as long as i just wait) maybe 1-7seconds it will just bump itself back off and away i go again no problems. until it happens again. it used to do it every other drive or so but its every drive now. sometimes it dies smooth sometimes its a bugger of jerk, i don't tend to lean forward so much now as i actually hit my head on the steering wheel a couple of times the jerk is so bad.
if van is stationary (out of gear) it will just cut out and go straight to the point where you first turn on the key (fuel pump lifting etc) and starts fine
sometimes you can hear rattling and a very rough idle as to the point i know exactly when its going to cut out now.
I have had numerous codes in it from fuel pressure sensor/ regulator to EGR to Fuel pressure regulators sensors etc etc etc
The main one i get which really confuses me (and everyone else on this planet) is P1604 which is main supply relay - any body any ideas? i have changed all the relays (is this the glow plug relay???)
i have replaced so far....(not in order of replacement.)
Fuel Filter
Fuel Feed and return Pipes#
Fuel filter housing
Checked tanked - All perfect
Check lifter pump - perfect
Fuel pressure Regulator (on back of fuel pump)
fuel pressure sensor (common rail mounted)
inlet air pressure
checked and cleaned every ground point in the van (including battery terminals)
new battery
New EGR valve
Air filter
Crankshaft sensor
Injectors - Leak off and pressure test - all ok
All Relays and Fuses.
Checked ECU connections.
renewed Heater blower loom - was melted
made sure every bulb in van is working
new instrument cluster (old was cracked anyway) - not part of problem
Crank shaft vibration damper pulley
The list does go on and on but i am absolutely 100% lost with it.
Its really strange how it just lets me continue on my journey and starts straight away?
i have tried to have live data readings on it while it does it to see if anything can be seen but as soon as its cuts out the bloody thing disconnects and i loose my graph. im just left with a note file that is very hard to understand.
so basically van cuts out and gives illumination all the time for GLOW PLUG LIGHT and sometimes followed or with the water in fuel light. it does not flash, it just comes on until van has started itself or i start turn the key
i have had the engine management light come on a few times. but only gives me the P1604 error which i have not had in a while.
i am currently waiting for a new MAF but i'm a little hesitant about that as it stills cuts out without it on or connected!!!
The van is remapped and maybe this could have fried the ECU? i just done know.
maybe its the wrong color or height. i could just be wearing the wrong shoes.
if anyone can help shed any light on this it would be great. :bang:
This fault has been present for about 2 years. :bang:
Its totally random and out of place. :bang:
If im on the motorway (like my drive from leeds to Southampton) it was perfect all the way down but coming back it did it around 19 times.
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME SAVE THIS BEAST :worship::worship:
and just in case anybody was wondering i have tried to eliminate faults easily by interchanging parts i have on other JTDs although most sensors have been new.
still got the same problem.
could a faulty/shredded wire glow plug cause it to cut out?
And to finish this off i get absolutely no error codes in the ENGINE control unit. ouch
i should just become super British and ''Get rid'' but i just cant. a bigger engine yes. destroy....NO
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Fiat Doblo 2003 1.9 JTD sx with 115k.
its took me long enough to remember my password for this and my gosh the people behind this site are not very helpful regarding accounts at all.
This is my problem.
When i start my van from cold/hot/warm/wet/dry (any condition really) its got a tendency to just cut out. sometime s it can take 10minutes sometimes it can take 3 hours (from standing still no movement or accelerator movement) now before anybody comments about this please read what i have already done/achieved so far.
Van has been in 4 garages, the last one was a very reputable diesel specialist who only found that maybe my inertia switch was faulty (even though i have already told them I've changed it twice (once for second hand then for new) so they are stumped. i refuse to put it in another garage as i have already checked and done what they would.
I can be driving down the road and under load its bloody perfect, although the DMF is totally screwed as its judders when hard on it. it pulls good, but when just cruising and tickling the accelerator (especially in 3rd and 4th) the glow plug light comes on (while stalling/dieing/loosing power) as well as the water in fuel light sometimes (and as long as i just wait) maybe 1-7seconds it will just bump itself back off and away i go again no problems. until it happens again. it used to do it every other drive or so but its every drive now. sometimes it dies smooth sometimes its a bugger of jerk, i don't tend to lean forward so much now as i actually hit my head on the steering wheel a couple of times the jerk is so bad.
if van is stationary (out of gear) it will just cut out and go straight to the point where you first turn on the key (fuel pump lifting etc) and starts fine
sometimes you can hear rattling and a very rough idle as to the point i know exactly when its going to cut out now.
I have had numerous codes in it from fuel pressure sensor/ regulator to EGR to Fuel pressure regulators sensors etc etc etc
The main one i get which really confuses me (and everyone else on this planet) is P1604 which is main supply relay - any body any ideas? i have changed all the relays (is this the glow plug relay???)
i have replaced so far....(not in order of replacement.)
Fuel Filter
Fuel Feed and return Pipes#
Fuel filter housing
Checked tanked - All perfect
Check lifter pump - perfect
Fuel pressure Regulator (on back of fuel pump)
fuel pressure sensor (common rail mounted)
inlet air pressure
checked and cleaned every ground point in the van (including battery terminals)
new battery
New EGR valve
Air filter
Crankshaft sensor
Injectors - Leak off and pressure test - all ok
All Relays and Fuses.
Checked ECU connections.
renewed Heater blower loom - was melted
made sure every bulb in van is working
new instrument cluster (old was cracked anyway) - not part of problem
Crank shaft vibration damper pulley
The list does go on and on but i am absolutely 100% lost with it.
Its really strange how it just lets me continue on my journey and starts straight away?
i have tried to have live data readings on it while it does it to see if anything can be seen but as soon as its cuts out the bloody thing disconnects and i loose my graph. im just left with a note file that is very hard to understand.
so basically van cuts out and gives illumination all the time for GLOW PLUG LIGHT and sometimes followed or with the water in fuel light. it does not flash, it just comes on until van has started itself or i start turn the key
i have had the engine management light come on a few times. but only gives me the P1604 error which i have not had in a while.
i am currently waiting for a new MAF but i'm a little hesitant about that as it stills cuts out without it on or connected!!!
The van is remapped and maybe this could have fried the ECU? i just done know.
maybe its the wrong color or height. i could just be wearing the wrong shoes.
if anyone can help shed any light on this it would be great. :bang:
This fault has been present for about 2 years. :bang:
Its totally random and out of place. :bang:
If im on the motorway (like my drive from leeds to Southampton) it was perfect all the way down but coming back it did it around 19 times.
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME SAVE THIS BEAST :worship::worship:
and just in case anybody was wondering i have tried to eliminate faults easily by interchanging parts i have on other JTDs although most sensors have been new.
still got the same problem.
could a faulty/shredded wire glow plug cause it to cut out?
And to finish this off i get absolutely no error codes in the ENGINE control unit. ouch
i should just become super British and ''Get rid'' but i just cant. a bigger engine yes. destroy....NO
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