Fiats easy to steal?

[Poondash]

The other day i heard, that theifs hate the newer cars as their harder to steal, thats why they say never leave your old BMW near Mossside, and we all know the MK1 puntos are pimps to break into.

But are the newer fiats say from 2000+ easy to get into and drive off?
I know breaking into any car is possible but could you drive them away?

btw im not a crook (honest) just woundering, so i can stop being over confident when i use my public carpark.

 

[rkt2003]

I use a disclock yes it costs(70quid) but it would take them at least 45 mins with the right equipment to get it off,thats to long for thieves they go for a quick steal!
Thats after they get past the door locks and alarm first,

 

[T14086]

But are the newer fiats say from 2000+ easy to get into and drive off?
I know breaking into any car is possible but could you drive them away?

Drive away with immobiliser on? Only way is to steal the keys.

 

[vtec]

the mk1 has an immobiliser as T14086 has said.,
although it is one of the easiest cars to gain entry to, there is little or no chance someones gonna drive off in it unless they have the key., or a sapre immobiliser thats chipped or they have the key for that one., but would still take time.,

 

[T14086]

the mk1 has an immobiliser as T14086 has said.,
although it is one of the easiest cars to gain entry to, ,

Was refering to year 2000+ fiats as per question.

 

[vtec]

my point being that the old punto has an immobiliser too and you cant nick them too easily either., getting in to either of them is simple, will take about 10 seconds or less.,

 

[h2ypr]

As far as im aware, i dont think any fiat coupe's have been stolen to date, without the keys.

Ross

 

[Hellcat]

As far as im aware, i dont think any fiat coupe's have been stolen to date, without the keys.

Ross

Yeah they all break down before they get too far

 

[Helz]

Nicking my Brava would be pointless - too worthless (as are any parts said thief might care to steal) and too recgonisable. Again easy to get into (smash window, open door), but then isn't any car?

 

[100hpJames]

the trend is to steal the keys these days, I suppose if you carried a decoded ecu around specifically for that model you could get around the immobilizer

 

[vtec]

and there are people doing it., there was a criminal gang over here that got caught for doin that with luxury high end cars a few years ago., they were sending the cars over seas and selling them for market prices to unsuspecting buyers.,

 

[100hpJames]

forgot to mention theres the added danger of hijacking too, nothings safe these days

 

[psychofox]

forgot to mention theres the added danger of hijacking too, nothings safe these days

This is true, some places in my area my punto locks itself
Had an atempted break in a couple of months ago, the bent back the front passenger door....couldnt get in as the glass managed to stop the door from bending back further, the glass should have smashed, but didnt (no idea how). My punto is a mini tank

 

[100hpJames]

think the new puntos (if the same setup as the 100hp) have auto locking doors, its pretty useful as I was always locking the cinq doors now I dont have to bother lol

 

[beau]

your welcome to try and take my car lol, fiats code immobilser & a meta immobiliser & alarm, just dont be cheats and bring a trailor

 

[jug]

fiats are just as easy as other brands.

most immobs only break the circuit (usually earth, but can be live) of the fuel pump or starter motor.

if you can hotwire the ignition switch, all you need to do is lay a new earth wire (or live) to whatever is immobilised.

most immobs only cut the earth to the fuel pump, so a single bit of wire and a few seconds is all it takes (especially when you consider how quick & easy it is to remove the fuel pump inspection cover on most cars). almost all standard production cars can be defeated with a single wire used to earth the fuel pump.

on the rare occasion you have starter motor immobilisation (usually aftermarket immobs) you need another piece of wire for the starter motor, but again its not hard, and you only need the starter motor to have power for a few secs once ignition is on. worst case scenario you hold the wire in place while it starts (usually from batt positive terminal to starter positive), then remove the wire and you're away. this also works if you cant find the correct wire on ignition switch for the starter motor (but theres not many so its usually easier to test them all, but carry spare fuses )

steering locks are more difficult to break than they used to be, but its still not hard with a bit of force (try next time you're in a scrapyard, use the small amount of movement to rock it free).

 

[psychofox]

you sound like your speaking from....experience

 

[vtec]

Hmm., that wouldnt apply to most modern cars as the immobilser wouldnt let the fuel injectors put fuel in the cylinders even if the pump was working(also various other systems would shut down.,), and the immobiliser is in the ecu and that decides how much fuel to put in., its actually a lot harder that you make it sound., as for the ignition lock., thats the easy bit, in a punto(and other fiats) the ingition barrel is made out of plastic, which is silly.,lol., you just have to get a foot up onto the wheel and get a good grip on it to snap the steering lock. ,if its a more modern car then you just put a cut piece of scaffold pipe over the keyhole and snap that off, then you can turn the switch with a flathead screwdriver.,

of course all that is usless unless you can beat the immobiliser., which isnt as easy to do as it is to say.,

 

[SkinzCinqSporting]

Just swap 2 coil plugs around, it wont fire, to stop trailering park in gear with your wheels pointing to turn

 

[Paul_Caruso]

What pisses me off about people that break into cars is when my girlfriend locked her keys in her Punto I watched the AA bloke get in in literally 20 seconds leaving no damage with no specialist tools whatsoever (plastic/wooden wedge, piece of string attached to plastic ruler and two sheets of plastic film) yet you see peoples cars (including my girlfriend's as of last week) with ****ed up locks, bent up door frames etc!

But yes, I had assumed that in recent years car thefts without keys must have been much less with immobilisers being (frequently) standard.