Technical Fiat 500 1.2 radiator help

[Ballsdeep69]

Hi I have a question on the radiator on a 1.2, it has maximum and minimum on the filer but underneath the minimum is a bit of plastic pipe that lets water out if you go over it. So it basically does not let you get to minimum never mind maximum. I have attached a picture.

 

[jackwhoo]

Hi I have a question on the radiator on a 1.2, it has maximum and minimum on the filer but underneath the minimum is a bit of plastic pipe that lets water out if you go over it. So it basically does not let you get to minimum never mind maximum. I have attached a picture.

Hi,
if coolant comes out of that point then the side tank is broken . The point indicated should not be a hole through the tank.

Best wishes
Jack

 

[Ballsdeep69]

You sure mate cause it’s a brand new radiator just purchased and it was coming out the one I took off also. Strange this

 

[varesecrazy]

Thats a mounting lug.. not regularly used on a 500

But maybe its had a long bolt..or screw wound into it and has punctured it?

I suppose you could attemp to plug it with a bolt if you are stuck.. BossWhite plumbing paste is pretty effective for such uses.

 

[Ballsdeep69]

Hi,
if coolant comes out of that point then the side tank is broken . The point indicated should not be a hole through the tank.

Best wishes
Jack

Is it not meant to have a blanking thing over it and the hole is for fitting it to another make car with a return or something.

 

[Ballsdeep69]

Thats a mounting lug.. not regularly used on a 500

But maybe its had a long bolt..or screw wound into it and has punctured it?

I suppose you could attemp to plug it with a bolt if you are stuck.. BossWhite plumbing paste is pretty effective for such uses.

I get you

 

[jackwhoo]

Yes I'm sure.

No it's not for a return hose.

 

[porta]

Thats a mounting lug.. not regularly used on a 500

But maybe its had a long bolt..or screw wound into it and has punctured it?

I suppose you could attemp to plug it with a bolt if you are stuck.. BossWhite plumbing paste is pretty effective for such uses.

That was my first thought as the radiators are common to a few cars that have different mounting points…if it’s brand new it could still be faulty

 

[varesecrazy]

Is it not meant to have a blanking thing over it and the hole is for fitting it to another make car with a return or something.

Basic rad design is 30 years old

Regularly used in Punto Panda .. Ypsillon and 500's

ODD THAT 2 x off the shelf items have a through hole

 

[varesecrazy]

Idea:

This design was always tricky for sensing coolant level

MAYBE there is provision for a level sensor??

As you say.. its at that point.. just below 'Min'

Pretty sure my 2018 model 500 doesnt have a sensor..

Will check tomorrow

 

[Ballsdeep69]

I will block the hole tomorrow with a bolt and silicone and check the radiator I removed to see if that hole is blocked off. It probably is to be honest. It was leaking out the bottom right corner so I changed it. The factory who made this must have made a mess up cause I have not screwed out in there and was careful with it.

 

[Derbyfella]

Im sure @typecastboy has mentioned these on replacement radiators. I think maybe it’s the ka uses them, anyway I believe he used a bung or a little heat shrink end cap to seal it

 

[varesecrazy]

nothing unusual on this 2018 model 500

 

[varesecrazy]

This basic design has been around since my 1994 punto SX.. basic FIRE motor

KA has been part of the 'Fiat picture' for around 10 years.. still with a FIRE motor


Wether the new FIREFLY motors still use this.. I dont know..


But 'modern era' Fiat : FCA designs ( with camchains not belts) tend to have a HeaderTank mounted in the inner wing

THESE have far better provision for a level indicator


MAYBE FORD did this with that little mount on the 'Sight Tube'???

 

[typecastboy]

On the Fiat original radiators, this hole is blocked. On the aftermarket ones it is open and they often come with a little bung and tiny jubilee clip although the last few I have bought didn't so I bought some rubber covers which I put over them which stops the coolant leaking out. If yours is factory, it is not open.

 

[Ralf S.]

I had similar on a new aftermarket radiator for my old Alfa 155. That had an open tube where the OE rad was blacked off.

I plugged the hole with a self-tapping screw, packed with silicone sealant.


Ralf S.

 

[John202020]

Looks like we need a new radiator evidence of moisture drips
Is there a guide not checked the bible, Haynes, would any version do they seem to vary in price £60-90 and above?

 

[typecastboy]

Looks like we need a new radiator evidence of moisture drips
Is there a guide not checked the bible, Haynes, would any version do they seem to vary in price £60-90 and above?

I buy the German ones from www.carparts4less.co.uk. EIS. That part is closed to the outside world like the OEM one and even comes with the rubber inserts where the locator tabs sit which the others don't. £59.99. They are out of stock at the moment, but I highly recommend these instead of any of the others. I've pretty much tried them all.

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[John202020]

Perhaps this will be OK, trying to save money as we're skint! so the £20 saving from others would pay for antifreeze and clips?

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Can you replace it without removing the bumper?

 

[typecastboy]

Perhaps this will be OK, trying to save money as we're skint! so the £20 saving from others would pay for antifreeze and clips?

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OE Number: 61936, 51787115, 1559504, 9S518005BA. Door Lock Actuator. Fiat Panda 312_, 319_ 2012-2020 1.2 LPG Petrol 169 A4.000. Fiat Panda Van 312_, 519_ 2012-2020 1.2 LPG Petrol 169 A4.000. Fiat Panda 312_, 319_ 2012-2020 1.2 Petrol 169 A4.000.

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Can you replace it without removing the bumper?

I've changed loads of them, but all with the bumper off. The bottom of the rad has pegs which push into rubber mounts which are bolted to the front panel which would pull upwards, however the top you would need to drill out the rivets that hold the pegs into the top of the radiator. If the bumper is off, you just remove the two 10mm bolts at the bottom and it'll pull out. I'm not sure whether you have the space to manoeuvre it without the bumper off, even if you remove the fan first. I'm not saying you can't but I've never done it like that. Maybe someone else can advise. I've done dozens and dozens, but I've always had the front of the car off when I've done it.