thanks, amazing what an hour and £10 in paint can do. i have shortened the gear lever this week and photo'd how it was all done in 20 mins easily but i struggle uploading pictures onto the site(probebly because i'm a lot better at playing with cars than working computers?) this is my 8th fiat but my first stilo and i love it, had a strada 130tc when i was 23 and it kind of reminds me of that without the starting problems. love the forum it's fantastic. :slayer: