EvilDragon
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Hello everyone!
Sadly I'm another one of the unlucky guys driving a Stilo with what seems to be an abundance of electrical issues... Even though it has a relatively low mileage for its date of production (currently at 177k km), it seems previous owners didn't take a lot of care of it, and it's all starting to break over my back
So, to begin. I've already gotten myself used to the "Engine Fault" error - initially it started blinking that when there wasn't a sufficient amount of oil (and boy, does this one slurp the oil like it's nothing! I usually need to fill a liter or two every one or two months - and no, it's not leaking anywhere!)...
What's started to annoy me later was the ASR/ESP errors. Seemingly out of nowhere. Sometimes it would drive just fine without those erros, other days it would just pop them out in the middle of driving, often accompanied with a "burp" as if the brake was mildly pressed then quickly released.
But as of more recently, the issues started becoming more severe - all of those same errors pop up, but now accompanied by (not always, but often) loss of revs and throttle pedal completely cut off. Then when I put the car into neutral gear (driving a 5-gear stick here, not automatic), it is stuck at 2000 RPM, when I know it's normal to have it around 700-900. So that alone is a cause for concern. Sometimes it starts doing this as soon as I start the car - it's in neutral, but the car goes straight to 2K RPM. Then I need to turn it off and on several times and pray it will work on regular revs.
BUT THEN, it can start doing the same thing in the middle of driving again. So I have to pull over (quite annoying when driving through the city, lots of pissed off drivers around me, etc.), turn it off, turn it on, pray that it works, or rinse&repeat. Sometimes, just sometimes, it would pop up an additional "Car Security Fault", but that's rare.
I went to the electrician for diagnosis, and what was written there was "intermittent CAN network error" regarding ASR/ESP fault, and something about catalyst (also intermittent) regarding engine fault. However, the catalyst is fine, the car passes all the "green" tests when we went to renew our car registration this July.
What that electrician dude suggested was trying to clean each and every electrical contact for the CAN network. Which I understand might be a pretty arduous task (hence expensive), and is not guaranteed to fix the issues.
This all smells to me like sensors spitting out nonsense - might be the very warm weather, but I've had ASR/ESP/engine faults even in winter... Or could this be related to throttle actuator or something (not sure if this is the correct term in English)?
Any thoughts are welcome. I can try and find out more info as well.
Oh yeah one more thing. Sometimes when I turn the car on, it doesn't even rev up enough and just goes down to 0 RPM and dies on me, which an occasional "low oil pressure" message. But I checked the oil and it does seem fine to me. Could something be wrong with the oil pump, or the alternator, or the starter (heh, or ANY of the million things that could go wrong with a Fiat? )? Also... unfortunately I'm not one of the guys that will get his hands dirty and go too much under the hood, unless it's something REALLY simple and followed through via images... Thanks for understanding!
Much appreciated for any comments! :worship:
Sadly I'm another one of the unlucky guys driving a Stilo with what seems to be an abundance of electrical issues... Even though it has a relatively low mileage for its date of production (currently at 177k km), it seems previous owners didn't take a lot of care of it, and it's all starting to break over my back
So, to begin. I've already gotten myself used to the "Engine Fault" error - initially it started blinking that when there wasn't a sufficient amount of oil (and boy, does this one slurp the oil like it's nothing! I usually need to fill a liter or two every one or two months - and no, it's not leaking anywhere!)...
What's started to annoy me later was the ASR/ESP errors. Seemingly out of nowhere. Sometimes it would drive just fine without those erros, other days it would just pop them out in the middle of driving, often accompanied with a "burp" as if the brake was mildly pressed then quickly released.
But as of more recently, the issues started becoming more severe - all of those same errors pop up, but now accompanied by (not always, but often) loss of revs and throttle pedal completely cut off. Then when I put the car into neutral gear (driving a 5-gear stick here, not automatic), it is stuck at 2000 RPM, when I know it's normal to have it around 700-900. So that alone is a cause for concern. Sometimes it starts doing this as soon as I start the car - it's in neutral, but the car goes straight to 2K RPM. Then I need to turn it off and on several times and pray it will work on regular revs.
BUT THEN, it can start doing the same thing in the middle of driving again. So I have to pull over (quite annoying when driving through the city, lots of pissed off drivers around me, etc.), turn it off, turn it on, pray that it works, or rinse&repeat. Sometimes, just sometimes, it would pop up an additional "Car Security Fault", but that's rare.
I went to the electrician for diagnosis, and what was written there was "intermittent CAN network error" regarding ASR/ESP fault, and something about catalyst (also intermittent) regarding engine fault. However, the catalyst is fine, the car passes all the "green" tests when we went to renew our car registration this July.
What that electrician dude suggested was trying to clean each and every electrical contact for the CAN network. Which I understand might be a pretty arduous task (hence expensive), and is not guaranteed to fix the issues.
This all smells to me like sensors spitting out nonsense - might be the very warm weather, but I've had ASR/ESP/engine faults even in winter... Or could this be related to throttle actuator or something (not sure if this is the correct term in English)?
Any thoughts are welcome. I can try and find out more info as well.
Oh yeah one more thing. Sometimes when I turn the car on, it doesn't even rev up enough and just goes down to 0 RPM and dies on me, which an occasional "low oil pressure" message. But I checked the oil and it does seem fine to me. Could something be wrong with the oil pump, or the alternator, or the starter (heh, or ANY of the million things that could go wrong with a Fiat? )? Also... unfortunately I'm not one of the guys that will get his hands dirty and go too much under the hood, unless it's something REALLY simple and followed through via images... Thanks for understanding!
Much appreciated for any comments! :worship:
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