(G) Punto GT vs Abarth Selespeed vs Abarth manual

Who can tell me about driving experiences with these models?

I came from a '98 Punto GT (130hp) and last February I've replaced it by an Abarth Selespeed.
But I found the Abarth to be faster than the Punto only at speeds above 170Km/h or so. Which of course, is less than 1% of my car use. The fuel consuption is also higher than the Punto.

Since the Abarth has more torque than the Punto at relatively low revs (3500rpms), I wonder why I notice that much difference for the Punto.
I know we don't feel any speed with the Stilo, but I also notice that's harder to pull away from the typical Turbo diesel cars. Something that didn't happened with the Punto GT.

I also like to hear about speed and acceleration figures for the manual gearbox abarth, and/or driving experiences compaired with the selespeed or Punto GT.

Michael

The punto GT is a proper lightweight hot hatch, the Abarth is a comfy cruiser, its never gonna beat the GT apart from on top end.

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)

i also read an article saying that stilo abarth is not a "racing car" as focus st170 or civic R or megane sport .... stilo unlike cars mentioned above has preety big engine and its ment to be a cruiser on the road ...
just compare the weight of the punto and stilo and you fill found out ... once i had a chance to drive UNO TURBO RACING ... i think it had around 120-130bhp but I'm sure that it was lighter than 900kg ... its a BOMB on the ROAD.

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I'm forced to agree with that. :(
Uno Turbo weights about 1040Kg and my ex-Punto GT weights near 1100Kg which is not that far from the less than 1300Kg the Abarth weights...
But I guess It makes diference.
I guess I just want a Turbo for my Stilo!
:P

Michael

Hi
You'll have to try an Coupé Turbo version.
So you will feel acceleration.
Solution : put an turbo on your Abarth

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Wow that means the 1.2 Stilo weighs about the same as the Punto GT, might explain the cars sprightliness!

53 plate, Stilo 3-door, Sassy grey, Alloys to follow, 1.2 Active, 5-Disc CD-Changer -- 45mpg!

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IM prety certain that the punto gt and the stilo abarth 0-60 are both 8.5 s




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louc

yeah my bro had a coupe 2.0 turbo 20v jobbie and f*** it would go!not been in any other cars to match it, even a top engine Z4 seems slower!!!

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The stats can be the same, but as we all know 0-60 times don't always give an accurate impression of real world performance, an aparently fast car can disappoint and vice versa.

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)

The fastest car I ever owned was an MG which I spared no expense on modifying....Hell that car would shift.. and I mean shift. It had a full race engine apart from the camshaft which I had modified to make the car more tractable at lower revs by reducing the valve over-lap. I imposed a rev limit of 8500 on the engine and all else was lightened where ever possible. What your after is power/weight and that car regularly produced 120bhp at the wheels on the Dyno. A std. Midget would produce about 45bhp.
This is the trouble with the Stilo and other modern cars...they are too heavy for good performance. Adding a turbo helps as it makes the car feel quicker in mid-range where it really counts. At the end of the day its all about gas flow and forced induction helps here also.


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To make a stilo feel properly fast it would need &gt;200bhp, 250bhp would put it right up there;)

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)

its not how fast it goes that matters, its how fast it feels.
i had a 1275GT mini that was not fast, but it felt like the fastest car on the planet. TOP FUN.

I don't thing those figures are correct. Fiat gives 8.5 to the Abarth, and 7.9 to Punto GT.
I mean Punto GT 1.4 8v turbocharged, not Punto HGT 1.8 16V.
...And I can tell you for my experience that the Punto is a lot more faster climbing on speed.
My Selespeed Abarth only shows better acceleration at speeds above 160Km/h (about 100mph).

Michael

Understand you quite well.
The other day I decided to give it a run on the freeway and caught my girldfriend retouching her makeup on the mirror while I was doing 140mph. I guess that says it all.
|)
I will look for a Turbo in the future. I miss the kick!
Michael

Don't they enforce speed limits in Portugal?:D

Stilo TURBO!!!!(diesel)