Technical mk2b sporting timing belt.

daryn · Nov 7, 2008

hey ,
i read in the owners manual that its not due until 72,000 miles,
mine has 65k on the clock at the moment, should i get it done before the 72k or wait til then ?
cheers.

dave · Nov 7, 2008

yes ffs the owners book is out of date it was revised to a much shorter time, we advise 40k miles or 4 years on here now

ChrisUK · Nov 7, 2008

daryn said:
hey ,
i read in the owners manual that its not due until 72,000 miles,
mine has 65k on the clock at the moment, should i get it done before the 72k or wait til then ?
cheers.

Yes i'd do it at 55k intervals at the latest.

ChrisUK · Nov 7, 2008

dave said:
yes ffs the owners book is out of date it was revised to a much shorter time, we advise 40k miles or 4 years on here now

Has fiat even told anyone (except themselves). Im the original owner and purchaser of my 05 sporting and they haven't told me jack s***.

dave · Nov 7, 2008

ChrisUK said:
Has fiat even told anyone (except themselves). Im the original owner and purchaser of my 05 sporting and they haven't told me jack s***.

fiat dont make belts

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edit dayco now have advance belts with a special coating

StevenRB45 · Nov 7, 2008

Thats pretty sobering reading! every 3 years or 36k???

ChrisUK · Nov 7, 2008

dave said:
fiat dont make belts

Hang on did I say they did?. All I said was "FIAT" published in their customer vehicle documentation to get it changed at 72,000 miles. It is then "FIATS" reponsibility to then tell said customers of this change to 3years or 36,000 miles.

Who the hell is going to know who manufacturers the belts or even know where to go online to check what you've just posted? :bang:.

Thats the point im trying to make. Personally if mine snapped at 3yrs and 36,000miles i'd be going after fiat to fix the damage as i'd be following their documentation and service booklet.

A similar thing happened with the Alfa Twinsparks (although they really were snapping JUST after 36k) and Alfa were rembursing customers who had maintained their service history.

StevenRB45 · Nov 7, 2008

Sometimes the past is the future....timing chains FTW

ChrisUK · Nov 8, 2008

StevenRB45 said:
Sometimes the past is the future....timing chains FTW

lol they can snapp too though, and common to stretch causing timing inaccuracies. Oh and are less efficient

.

oktopod · Nov 8, 2008

Just change the damn belt at 20k and sleep tight

In my country it costs less then 15EUR

ChrisUK · Nov 8, 2008

oktopod said:
Just change the damn belt at 20k and sleep tight
In my country it costs less then 15EUR

its definatly fine for 36k

And yes but how much to put it on?

StevenRB45 · Nov 8, 2008

ChrisUK said:
lol they can snapp too though, and common to stretch causing timing inaccuracies. Oh and are less efficient .

The likelyhood of them snapping is a lot lower tho also they don't perish and are not subject to problems with oil contamination making them go soft. As long as they are maintained could last a very long time indeed although mines a got a bit of noise that wouldn't be there with a belt at idle.

T14086 · Nov 8, 2008

ChrisUK said:
Personally if mine snapped at 3yrs and 36,000miles i'd be going after fiat to fix the damage as i'd be following their documentation and service booklet.

Ford state 100,000miles or 10 years in documentation but they will not honour it because its a recommendation.

ChrisUK said:
A similar thing happened with the Alfa Twinsparks (although they really were snapping JUST after 36k) and Alfa were rembursing customers who had maintained their service history.

Alfa done this (and it was often a part contribution) to retain their dwindling customer base.

oktopod · Nov 9, 2008

ChrisUK said:
its definatly fine for 36k

And yes but how much to put it on?

20 EUR to put it on, 13 EUR part...

ChrisUK · Nov 9, 2008

oktopod said:
20 EUR to put it on, 13 EUR part...

wow I need to live there. Costs £100+ in labour here to put it on :bang:.

oktopod · Nov 9, 2008

Yeah, but it's not in Fiat dealer garage, it's in a backyard garage...a garage that has a stamp on the bill and on service book would charge you abbout 40-50 EUR
I wouldnt be suprised if Fiat dealer here would charge you 100 EUR as in GB, and part (belt) could be 30-50 EUR cause its original (?)

ChrisUK · Nov 10, 2008

Well I can get a genuine FIAT timing belt kit for a 1.2/1.4 16v for about £30 so that would be about right.

I think the massive difference is the strength of the pound, and the effects of "rip off britain"

Singh! · Nov 11, 2008

oh dear this thread has scared me a bit, i thought it was 5 years or 72k miles!
My car is now 5 years old but only done 30k miles, im going to get the belt changed this xmas, just hope nothing happens before i get it done

ChrisUK · Nov 11, 2008

Singh! said:
oh dear this thread has scared me a bit, i thought it was 5 years or 72k miles!
My car is now 5 years old but only done 30k miles, im going to get the belt changed this xmas, just hope nothing happens before i get it done

Get someone who knows what there looking at to undo the cover and have a quick look to see how much its perished.

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