General What should you pay for a Panda ?

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General What should you pay for a Panda ?

chippy1

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Hi Gents ladies (wee smurf)
Whats a reasonable price for a 1.2 panda and also a 1.3 Diesel Panda as i have been looking for ages now but really dont know whats a reasonable price for a panda lets say a Panda that has upto 50k miles around on a 08-09 plate.

They all seem high price to me on ebay autotrader
 
They do seem high compared to a Punto don't they! I'm buying a 2006 panda 1.3 dynamic multijet on Sunday with 67k and fsh for £2500. Compare that to to the £975 I'm asking for my 2005 Punto jtd! Most 2009 pandas I looked at were around £3500. There is a white panda on ebay 2009 with only 3000 miles with a buy it now of £4300 which I thought was reasonable for a car that's basically new.
 
I've just purchased a 100hp. 2010 plate. It was fullmetalpandas old car. He part ex'd it for a new punto. I knew what it was valued at for part exchange. I paid above (obviously dealer would make money on the car) part ex value and above what parkers price guide said it was worth.

The good thing about buying from a proper dealer (fiat autoworld) was the prep of the car. They pulled out all the dents. Serviced it again as per fiat recommendation and motd the car for me. The car did not really need a service as it was last serviced in July with only 13k miles.

For me you are buying a Second hand car, not new. So always buy on condition. And for me the better condtion cars always command a higher premium. Obviously there are rubbish tired and uncared for cars out there. Owners of these cars look at the market and price their cars according to the rest of the market. So you are going to need to do your homework, travel to view cars and pay what the car is worth to you. Don'tlisten to some silly guide aas it's only a guide.

It took me 4 months to find my car but I am really fussy

you may find a bargain but be prepared to travel. It took.me 4 months to find my one.

As for the 1.3 multi jet. 2.5 -3.5 should bag you a nice one.
 
I bought my 100hp in October from a guy in Hatfield, 10k miles on an '08 plate for 4k. Bargain. There's some deals out there, just bide your time.


Sent from my 100HP using FIAT Forum
 
Shop, shop and shop around!

Used cars fall into three basic price bands.
Dealer price
Private price
Trade price

The differences can be quite large between the three for the same car, though private vendors tend to price up and advertise their cars on what dealers are asking, but usually move on price more readily.

Typically the dealers (franchise or not) tend to be the more expensive option as they offer warranties, finance etc, though the extra cost doesn't always add up as they need to make a profit as well.

Most think there's "come back" with a dealer, true most will help if things go wrong, but lots will leave you in the hands of cheap warranty companies and/or you threatening civil suits you just can't afford or win!

Private sales are bliss if you're used to them, if not they can be a bit of a nightmare.
Never buy unseen/untested from the likes of Ebay, always view and always haggle.

Judging owner and car together can be useful, enquiry by phone should be probing enough so you don't travel miles to view rotters!
Most of all, if it feels wrong or they ask you to do strange things (met in a pub car park at full moon) it is wrong!

A warranty can be bought online for fractions of what a dealer will ask for which will make the whole deal cheaper than Dealers.

Trade buying is usually down to auctions, unless you've done it before or can take someone with you that has, it's probably not a viable option, though the bigger auction houses are now a little more private buyer friendly.

I would recommend visiting them first a couple of times and get the feel.
You can't always "drive away" with your purchase, (tax etc) so you need to consider transport and you need to stump up the money there and then, there ain't no haggling here!

There is another way of buying at trade like prices and that's back at the dealers.
A friendly chat with one may turn up a "trade in" that they'd send to auction.
They take dozens of cars every week, not all end up on their forecourt, if you can cover their CAP (auction price) and offer them a "Drink" you could be quids in.

Again, a warranty can be bought online if required.
 
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Pandas do seem to hold their value - but why not check out the car auctions.


There's a load of low-mile White Diesel Pandas for sale on Autotrader at the moment. I knew they would be coming because I saw them on the Mannheim auction website (you can register for free).


Worth a punt maybe. Here's what they have on the list at the moment.


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Type Lot No Make - Model - Derivative
Month/Year - Plate - Engine Size - Body Colour
(Trim) Odometer Fuel Trans Grade Vendor Location Sale Date Bid &
Buy Now
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04/2013 - AV13EWD - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
WHITE
(RED) 1,963 w Ptrl Man 1SANTANDER CONSUMER Colchester 08/04/2014 http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/88095386-1677242-850110-002.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/88095386-1677242-850110-003.jpg Vendor:

SANTANDER CONSUMER

Reg Date

Apr 2013
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 1The vehicle may have minor interior and exterior defects that require SMART repairs, i.e. minor scratches or dents and minor replacement parts could also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.


Specification includes...


  • Radio CD

Registered Keepers

1

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01/2013 - ST62WBK - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
WHITE
(RED) 8,251 w Ptrl Man 1FGA Glasgow
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FGA

Reg Date

Jan 2013
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 1The vehicle may have minor interior and exterior defects that require SMART repairs, i.e. minor scratches or dents and minor replacement parts could also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.

Certifications

manheim_assured
Manheim Assured

Specification includes...


  • Radio CD
  • Front Fog Lights

Registered Keepers

2
Services

1
Date of Last Service
(Odometer)


11/01/2014
(7,328)

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10/2012 - EJ62EJA - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
RED
(GREY) 11,101 w Dsl Man 1FGA Bruntingthorpe
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FGA

Reg Date

Oct 2012
VAT

Qualifying
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 1The vehicle may have minor interior and exterior defects that require SMART repairs, i.e. minor scratches or dents and minor replacement parts could also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.

Certifications

manheim_assured
Manheim Assured

Specification includes...


  • Air Conditioning
  • CD Player
  • Electric Windows

Registered Keepers

1

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03/2011 - SL11UBX - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
RED
(GREY) 36,677 w Ptrl Man 1SANTANDER CONSUMER Glasgow
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SANTANDER CONSUMER

Reg Date

Mar 2011
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 1The vehicle may have minor interior and exterior defects that require SMART repairs, i.e. minor scratches or dents and minor replacement parts could also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.

Certifications

manheim_assured
Manheim Assured

Specification includes...


  • Radio CD

Registered Keepers

2
Services

3
Date of Last Service
(Odometer)


14/01/2014
(35,269)

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02/2011 - NV60RXG - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
WHITE
(GREY) 94,545 w Ptrl Man 2SANTANDER CONSUMER Washington 02/04/2014 http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/17261859-1669108-846030-002.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/17261859-1669108-846030-003.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/17261859-1669108-846030-007.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/17261859-1669108-846030-011.jpg Vendor:

SANTANDER CONSUMER

Lot No

328
Reg Date

Feb 2011
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 2The vehicle may require repairs as Grade 1 plus up to 1 major or minor body shop repair to an individual panel or bumper. The replacement of more significant internal or external trim parts (excluding panels) may also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.


Specification includes...


  • Radio CD

MOT Expiry Date

06/01/2015
Registered Keepers

1

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03/2010 - MF10EWJ - 1.1L - 5DR HATCHBACK
WHITE 4,517 w Ptrl Man 3THE CAR GROUP Bruntingthorpe 07/04/2014 http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-002.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-003.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-004.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-005.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-006.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-007.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-008.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-009.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-010.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-011.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/30140099-1706930-865136-012.jpg Vendor:

THE CAR GROUP

Reg Date

Mar 2010
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 3The vehicle may require repairs as Grade 1 & 2 plus may require up to 5 minor body shop repairs, 3 major body shop repairs or a combination of major and minor repairs. The vehicle may require a replacement bumper but not two. These will be recorded on the appraisal.

Certifications

manheim_assured
Manheim Assured

Specification includes...


  • Radio CD

MOT Expiry Date

23/03/2015
Registered Keepers

1
Services

3
Date of Last Service
(Odometer)


17/07/2013
(4,044)

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02/2010 - HD59BXN - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
BLUE
(BLUE) 94,381 Ptrl Man 1THE WESTOVER GROUP Wimbledon 02/04/2014 http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/6567318-1661087-841808-002.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/6567318-1661087-841808-003.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/6567318-1661087-841808-004.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/6567318-1661087-841808-005.jpg Vendor:

THE WESTOVER GROUP

Lot No

1429
Reg Date

Feb 2010
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 1The vehicle may have minor interior and exterior defects that require SMART repairs, i.e. minor scratches or dents and minor replacement parts could also be required. These will be recorded on the appraisal.

Certifications

manheim_assured
Manheim Assured

Specification includes...


  • Radio CD
  • AIR CONDITIONING
  • Power Steering

MOT Expiry Date

08/02/2015
Registered Keepers

1
Services

2
Date of Last Service
(Odometer)


16/01/2014
(91,044)

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09/2004 - WN54TYW - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
RED
(BLUE) 88,872 w Ptrl Man 5LISTERS Birmingham 02/04/2014 http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-002.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-003.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-004.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-005.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-006.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-007.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-008.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-009.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-010.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-011.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-012.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-013.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-014.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-015.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-016.jpg http://www.manheimremarketing.co.uk/images/units/lightbox/18368132-1706114-865001-017.jpg Vendor:

LISTERS

Lot No

353
Reg Date

Sep 2004
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim
Grade 5The vehicle may require repairs as Grades 1, 2, 3 & 4. It may have a combination of repairs or the vehicle may have sustained collision damage and the replacement up to two structural panels may be required (providing there is no other damage on the vehicle). These will be recorded on the appraisal.


Specification includes...


  • Radio CD
  • Air Conditioning

Registered Keepers

4
Services

11
Date of Last Service
(Odometer)


15/10/2013
(83,152)

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FIAT - PANDA - DYNAMIC
03/2004 - RV04RYX - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
YELLOW 1 Ptrl Man WEST LONDON MOTOR GROUP Wimbledon
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Vendor:

WEST LONDON MOTOR GROUP

Reg Date

Mar 2004
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim

Specification includes...


  • Power Steering

MOT Expiry Date

14/08/2014
Registered Keepers

8

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FIAT - PANDA - DYNAMIC
09/2004 - WV54ULG - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
RED 53,304 Ptrl Man HARTWELL Bristol 03/04/2014
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HARTWELL

Reg Date

Sep 2004
VAT

Margin
V5

Yes, with Manheim

Specification includes...

No Listed Specification
MOT Expiry Date

23/10/2014
Registered Keepers

3

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FIAT - PANDA - DYNAMIC
12/2003 - GP53MWM - 1.2L - 5DR HATCHBACK
YELLOW 96,430 Ptrl Man Wimbledon
 
Never believe either mileage or service history unless verified.
There are only two ways to do that that mean anything.
Mileage, use a diagnostic tool like MES to compare the engine ecu recored milage to the dash ecu, also the number of re-writes, some cars are clocked every month, the kit to clock them is less than 20 quid. !
It is generally thought that 1 in 3 cars in the UK are clocked...
HPI and MOT trace mean nada,
It will cost you 75 quid for the kit to check,.

Now, service history, There seems to be a toal lack of understanding by many people of what this means. It does not mean stamps in a service book, but that is a start.. what it means is all the receipts and bills for all the work from new. everything. if you aint got that, dont believe it. You have a chance if the car was serviced by a main dealer as you can check with them as to the history of service. You can buy service books from ebay, many are availble to order if you know the right people. :rolleyes:

Caveat Emptor.

When you buy a car, always allow a certain amount for proper servicing and sorting - whatever the book says it has done or the seller lies about...;)
First thing I did on mine was a new cambelt kit (from fiat!) and a full total service - gearbox oil, engine oil, brake fluid, clutch cable, brakes, everything.
NEVER, ever believe what the seller says without FULL documented and traceable proof.
 
Never believe either mileage or service history unless verified.
There are only two ways to do that that mean anything.
Mileage, use a diagnostic tool like MES to compare the engine ecu recored milage to the dash ecu, also the number of re-writes, some cars are clocked every month, the kit to clock them is less than 20 quid. !
It is generally thought that 1 in 3 cars in the UK are clocked...
HPI and MOT trace mean nada,
It will cost you 75 quid for the kit to check,.

Now, service history, There seems to be a toal lack of understanding by many people of what this means. It does not mean stamps in a service book, but that is a start.. what it means is all the receipts and bills for all the work from new. everything. if you aint got that, dont believe it. You have a chance if the car was serviced by a main dealer as you can check with them as to the history of service. You can buy service books from ebay, many are availble to order if you know the right people. :rolleyes:

Caveat Emptor.

When you buy a car, always allow a certain amount for proper servicing and sorting - whatever the book says it has done or the seller lies about...;)
First thing I did on mine was a new cambelt kit (from fiat!) and a full total service - gearbox oil, engine oil, brake fluid, clutch cable, brakes, everything.
NEVER, ever believe what the seller says without FULL documented and traceable proof.
The man speaks absolute sense, it's your money on the line, be extremely careful (and picky) with what you buy and who you buy from. There's no shortage of "normal" Pandas here in the UK, you'll be able to find a mint example with a little effort and patience :).
 
Never believe either mileage or service history unless verified.
There are only two ways to do that that mean anything.
Mileage, use a diagnostic tool like MES to compare the engine ecu recored milage to the dash ecu, also the number of re-writes, some cars are clocked every month, the kit to clock them is less than 20 quid. !
It is generally thought that 1 in 3 cars in the UK are clocked...
HPI and MOT trace mean nada,
It will cost you 75 quid for the kit to check,.

Now, service history, There seems to be a toal lack of understanding by many people of what this means. It does not mean stamps in a service book, but that is a start.. what it means is all the receipts and bills for all the work from new. everything. if you aint got that, dont believe it. You have a chance if the car was serviced by a main dealer as you can check with them as to the history of service. You can buy service books from ebay, many are availble to order if you know the right people. :rolleyes:

Caveat Emptor.

When you buy a car, always allow a certain amount for proper servicing and sorting - whatever the book says it has done or the seller lies about...;)
First thing I did on mine was a new cambelt kit (from fiat!) and a full total service - gearbox oil, engine oil, brake fluid, clutch cable, brakes, everything.
NEVER, ever believe what the seller says without FULL documented and traceable proof.

Captain.

I could not agree more. It's is a minefield. When it comes to looking at a car I'm sure your much more thorough then me. However I would say I'm anal enough to annoy most people.

Re my panda purchase

I was able to speak with the cars old owner on many times to pick his brains about any Isues or modifications ( gear knob some small decals and k and N panel filter )
i have all the receipts for service work with stamped book. Original sales invoice. The old mot and fresh12 month mot. And HPI clear report. Overall I think I was very well looked after by the fiat dealer but then I did pay a small premium. I work 6 days a week. Sometimes 7 so paying a little extra for convenience is worthwhile in my case.
 
Captain.

I could not agree more. It's is a minefield. When it comes to looking at a car I'm sure your much more thorough then me. However I would say I'm anal enough to annoy most people.

Re my panda purchase

I was able to speak with the cars old owner on many times to pick his brains about any Isues or modifications ( gear knob some small decals and k and N panel filter )
i have all the receipts for service work with stamped book. Original sales invoice. The old mot and fresh12 month mot. And HPI clear report. Overall I think I was very well looked after by the fiat dealer but then I did pay a small premium. I work 6 days a week. Sometimes 7 so paying a little extra for convenience is worthwhile in my case.
Absolutely agreed Sir. !
I would always pay a premium IF it was the right car, you did the right thing.
I must confess that the dealer selling mine (not a fiat dealer) looked rather 'worried' when I asked if I could do any inspection (to which he agreed) - I then pulled out the laptop, cantiecar interface unit and MES and started probing and logging the ecu's.. :D - also left it plugged in for a full start from cold and 5 Km test drive to log details (just in case all existing faults had been cleared... there were a few minor things, but that only got me a rather large chunk of the price... (y) - the look on the guys face was worth the 200 squids I paid for MES Multiplex version. AND, I saved FAR more than that on hte price of the car... I would buy the registered version if I was you, for about 70 quid you can have the program and the interface with leads. It is good to actually know what is happening. I check mine on average once every two weeks. but, I am also meticulous. (or a sad b&stard) :D:p
 
Used cars fall into three basic price bands.
Dealer price
Private price
Trade price

Dealer sticker price can be hilarious.
I traded in my 2.5 year old Panda a few years ago. I paid £5495 for it brand new.
The dealer I traded it in to put it on their forecourt priced at..... £5495!

Go look at fiatsupasaver.com and see what new ones cost before you look at any nearly-new Fiats :)
 
Dealer sticker price can be hilarious.
I traded in my 2.5 year old Panda a few years ago. I paid £5495 for it brand new.
The dealer I traded it in to put it on their forecourt priced at..... £5495!

Go look at fiatsupasaver.com and see what new ones cost before you look at any nearly-new Fiats :)
They're selling brand new mk4 Pandas for just under £7k and they have a mk3 1.2 Active Eco for £5.5k.

I have no idea if they're good prices, but they're at least a reference point.
 
Absolutely agreed Sir. !
I would always pay a premium IF it was the right car, you did the right thing.
I must confess that the dealer selling mine (not a fiat dealer) looked rather 'worried' when I asked if I could do any inspection (to which he agreed) - I then pulled out the laptop, cantiecar interface unit and MES and started probing and logging the ecu's.. :D - also left it plugged in for a full start from cold and 5 Km test drive to log details (just in case all existing faults had been cleared... there were a few minor things, but that only got me a rather large chunk of the price... (y) - the look on the guys face was worth the 200 squids I paid for MES Multiplex version. AND, I saved FAR more than that on hte price of the car... I would buy the registered version if I was you, for about 70 quid you can have the program and the interface with leads. It is good to actually know what is happening. I check mine on average once every two weeks. but, I am also meticulous. (or a sad b&stard) :D:p

Hmm more money to spend on what was suppose to be just a cheap small runaround. You should have came with me to buy my car. I may have knocked a bit more off. But nonetheless I am over the moon with it. Took a few months and it does not have the skydome but I would stick me neck out there and say it's one of the best 100hp in the country. Worth every penny.?
 
I would definitely check the mileage and FULL history with the main dealer - but that only takes a call. It does say FULL dealer history.
All depends on condition when you see it really..

Some info on it though.. (These are specific to THAT SPECIFIC vehicle from the VIN number (which is from the Reg Number)

3U - PANDA MY 2009 (2009-2010)
rtm.jpg

16903B251870 - 2V.
1.2 BZ.F4
L2-DYNAMIC "ECO" GD.5M-RU/IEngine: 6051967 Vehicle: 04086296 Manuf. date: 8/9/2010


DISPLACEMENT (COMMER.)TO BE DEF.(1100~1199)(CC1.2)
POWER1242CC.(KW44)
DRIVERIGHT(GDX)
BODYWORK TYPE BN W/ REAR END DOOR(TC2V)
NUMBER OF DOORS4 DOORS(NP4)
FUEL PETROL(CMBBZ)
TRIM LEVEL LEV. 2 ( DYNAMIC )(LL2)
DRIVE TYPE 2 WHEEL DRIVE(TT4X2)
EMISSIONS LEVEL EEC LIM. STAGE 4(ECOCF4)
MARKET TRIM LEVEL UK/EIRE(AM87)
12 V POWER SOCKET Yes(823)
ABS Yes(009)
AIR BAG Yes(500)
CLIMATE CONTROL 1 Yes(025)
DOOR OPENING/CLOSING REMOTE CONTROL Yes(008)
ECO KIT 1 Yes(5KQ)
ELECTRIC DOOR LOCKING Yes(228)
ELECTRIC POWER STEERING Yes(112)
FRONT ELECTRIC WINDOWS Yes(028)
GEARBOX WITH SPECIFIC RATIOS Yes(157)
GUIDE IN ENGLISH Yes(852)
HEATED REAR WINDOW Yes(029)
MILE COUNTERYes(046)
PARTIAL SHRINK-WRAPPING Yes(928)
PASSENGER AIRBAG Yes(502)
RADIO EXTRA SERIES 2 Yes(717)
REAR WINDOW WIPER Yes(101)
SPARE WHEEL Yes(803)
SPECIFIC BUMPERS Yes(876)
STEERING WHEEL ADJUSTMENT Yes(011)
TIRE EXTRA SERIES 2 Yes(142)
UPHOLSTERY EXTRA SERIES 3Yes(727)

Number plate OU60WEA
VIN ZFA16900001800806
MODEL DYNAMIC 1.2 FIRE MPI 60CV 5M E5+EOBD ECO

FUEL PETROL
CUBIC CAPACITY 1242 - 1248 CC
INTERIOR COLOUR BLUE FABRICS
EXTERIOR COLOUR WHITE
POWER 44 KW - 60 CV
BODY 2 VOLUMES
DRIVE RIGHT

registered December 2010.

worth a look. ;)
 
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Thanks for all your thoughts i have just spotted this one not sure if price is good or not but have emailed seller.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...panda/colour/white/postcode/de238dr?logcode=p


Looks a very fair price but it's 94 miles from your house...........


You're closer to Hilton Garage where there's a low miles 2011 Dynamic, but it's 1500 quid more.


You should congratulate them on their idea of taking photos in the dark. Great stuff. Ask for some more (of the inside) before trekking anywhere.
 
Adverts are almost useless. You really need to go view the car if it ticks most of ye boxes of what your after.

And don't email. Always call first. To me it's shows more of a genuine interest.....But that's just me
 
Adverts are almost useless. You really need to go view the car if it ticks most of ye boxes of what your after.

And don't email. Always call first. To me it's shows more of a genuine interest.....But that's just me

If you ever ring up - and you think it is a private sale -ALWAYS say - "I am ringing about the car...."
If they say "which car" then it is not a private sale....

Also, 90 miles is nothing to go and view a car... but ask about ANY imperfections or issues first.. you cannot expect totally as new, but it should be pretty mint. again, never ever trust mileage - he says full history - do not believe it without checking with the dealer. I could get you a fully stamped history tomorrow for any car from any dealer,

I would also never buy of anyone with an IQ in single digits, so on talking to the person, if they seem thick as sh&( , leave it... ;)
 
I would definitely check the mileage and FULL history with the main dealer - but that only takes a call. It does say FULL dealer history.
All depends on condition when you see it really..

Some info on it though.. (These are specific to THAT SPECIFIC vehicle from the VIN number (which is from the Reg Number)

3U - PANDA MY 2009 (2009-2010)
rtm.jpg

16903B251870 - 2V.
1.2 BZ.F4
L2-DYNAMIC "ECO" GD.5M-RU/IEngine: 6051967 Vehicle: 04086296 Manuf. date: 8/9/2010


DISPLACEMENT (COMMER.)TO BE DEF.(1100~1199)(CC1.2)
POWER1242CC.(KW44)
DRIVERIGHT(GDX)
BODYWORK TYPE BN W/ REAR END DOOR(TC2V)
NUMBER OF DOORS4 DOORS(NP4)
FUEL PETROL(CMBBZ)
TRIM LEVEL LEV. 2 ( DYNAMIC )(LL2)
DRIVE TYPE 2 WHEEL DRIVE(TT4X2)
EMISSIONS LEVEL EEC LIM. STAGE 4(ECOCF4)
MARKET TRIM LEVEL UK/EIRE(AM87)
12 V POWER SOCKET Yes(823)
ABS Yes(009)
AIR BAG Yes(500)
CLIMATE CONTROL 1 Yes(025)
DOOR OPENING/CLOSING REMOTE CONTROL Yes(008)
ECO KIT 1 Yes(5KQ)
ELECTRIC DOOR LOCKING Yes(228)
ELECTRIC POWER STEERING Yes(112)
FRONT ELECTRIC WINDOWS Yes(028)
GEARBOX WITH SPECIFIC RATIOS Yes(157)
GUIDE IN ENGLISH Yes(852)
HEATED REAR WINDOW Yes(029)
MILE COUNTERYes(046)
PARTIAL SHRINK-WRAPPING Yes(928)
PASSENGER AIRBAG Yes(502)
RADIO EXTRA SERIES 2 Yes(717)
REAR WINDOW WIPER Yes(101)
SPARE WHEEL Yes(803)
SPECIFIC BUMPERS Yes(876)
STEERING WHEEL ADJUSTMENT Yes(011)
TIRE EXTRA SERIES 2 Yes(142)
UPHOLSTERY EXTRA SERIES 3Yes(727)

Number plate OU60WEA
VIN ZFA16900001800806
MODEL DYNAMIC 1.2 FIRE MPI 60CV 5M E5+EOBD ECO

FUEL PETROL
CUBIC CAPACITY 1242 - 1248 CC
INTERIOR COLOUR BLUE FABRICS
EXTERIOR COLOUR WHITE
POWER 44 KW - 60 CV
BODY 2 VOLUMES
DRIVE RIGHT

registered December 2010.

worth a look. ;)

Could you tell me how you found out all that info about the car please. I'd like to do it for the one I'm buying. Cheers.
 
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