Technical New rims & tyres winter requirements

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Technical New rims & tyres winter requirements

GeorgeM51

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Hi All
I own a 04 panda 1.1 Active, I am running standard 155/80/R13 rims & tyres.
Questions...
What would be a good road rim & tyre set up for this beaut. ??
What would be a good all round yearly tyre for this vehicle AND
What would be a good winter tyre, we do get pretty sh$$$$ty snow falls & where I live and it is very hilly.
Thanks
George M
 
I put on some of those cheap Sava Eskimo S2 winter tyres from Mytyres.co.uk on our Active.
£118 they were last year. Bought a set of used rims for them.

They work surprisingly well for knocking around in the snow and ice, much better grip than my X type with 4x4, though that has normal rubber.

Good idea to source a winter tyre now, as the price rockets when we get a cold snap.

Vredestein have a big following, they do an all weather (Quatrac) which the Panda 4x4 lot love and a full Snow tyre (Snowtrac).
 
I put a set of Michelin Alpins on mine, 175/70R13 which fits on the standard 13" steel wheels, but it was all that was left. They're extremely capable, as long as you have ground clearance and know how to work the clutch and throttle smoothly, you'll never get stuck.

They come in 155/80R13 as well and skinny tyres are better for winter driving.
 
I have Continental WinterContacts on original steelies on mine for the winter. Been using them for 5 years now. I've found them great - good grip and the wear ain't bad either.
New set of tyres bought last year, fitted 2 on fronts and kept the other two in case it would be hard to get them later as I wasn't sure I'd get a season out of the old rear ones. Will change them around November...
 
That's what I thought myself, but the tyre place said it was best to put them on the front... They said it would be better to have good grip on the driving wheels to get going...

Won't matter as much this year cause I'll be fitting the other two new ones when I change over around November or so...
 
If you driving on a nice dry day then yes, but what if it's snowy? I'd MUCH rather have understeer than oversteer.

Oversteer is fun as long as you're the only car in the road :p

Besides, if you get oversteer in an FWD car, just point the front wheels in the direction you want to go and give it some throttle.
 
On a dry or wet bit of road yes, but on the snow and ice, a balance more towards understeer is king.
 
Put "Vikki tyres" into youtube and it'll come up :)

I completely understand where TDQ is coming from, for a competition car you ALWAYS want to have the best tyres on the driven wheels because the car will handle better. But for your average Joe who doesn't have the skillz of Schumacher, the best tyres should always be on the rear, or you should rotate the tyres so there's never a significant difference front to rear.
 
Smashing head on into a tree is going to be a lot less devastating than doing it sideways ;)

Maxi where's that VBH video you posted a few days ago?

Yep, we need that pointless video to show what happens when you fit barely legal tyres on the rear and brand new tyres on the front. If you aquaplane, I'd rather have grip on the front all the same.

On a car like the Panda which understeers everywhere anyway this whole issues about having your best tyres on the rear really is a non-issue.

It's not like the Panda likes to ever go sideways in all honesty. On my current car, best tyres on the rear makes far more sense. But then, that car is RWD and has a 2 way LSD with no weight over the back so it slides incredibly easy. But it's not the same for a FWD car like the Panda that only really knows terminal understeer.
 
Yep, we need that pointless video to show what happens when you fit barely legal tyres on the rear and brand new tyres on the front. If you aquaplane, I'd rather have grip on the front all the same.

On a car like the Panda which understeers everywhere anyway this whole issues about having your best tyres on the rear really is a non-issue.

It's not like the Panda likes to ever go sideways in all honesty. On my current car, best tyres on the rear makes far more sense. But then, that car is RWD and has a 2 way LSD with no weight over the back so it slides incredibly easy. But it's not the same for a FWD car like the Panda that only really knows terminal understeer.

But what's right for TDQ isn't necessarily right for everyone. I myself rotate my tyres and at times I'll have the best tyres on the front, but at most they're only 1mm different from the rears so there is no significant difference. For someone who is never going to rotate their tyres themself and wants the safest handling then best tyres on the rear is best.
 
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