General 1.4 HP engine in what other Fiats??

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General 1.4 HP engine in what other Fiats??

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Hi all,

The Fiat 1.4 16v engine in my 100hp is not the same as the Grande Punto engine?? What other Fiats use this engine.

I am searching for Cams, Rods, Pistons.....
 
Might find what you need in the turbo bravo..rods and pistons should be forged for turbo applications..
 
The 1.4 petrol engine can be found in the Fiat 500byDIESEL!
Sorry, just a personal grumble of mine about car names. By the way, the capitals are Fiat's idea, not mine.
 
Thanks for your help so far guys...

I don't neccessarily want to buy parts "from" another Fiat model, I just wanted to know if the same engine is fitted into any other Fiat cars, just in case the aftermarket suppliers aren't aware of the 100hp.
 
Dave, are you sure the Grande has vvt? Can't find any reference to it on a 2008 ePER - all fixed pulleys, tensioners and no variator shown.

ive not got photo of the pulley because i gave it some one to take to bits an make a vernier(/) pulley out of but here a pic of the end of the cam where the oil goes to adjust the timing
DSCF3783.JPG

cam2.jpg

and the bit that controls that oil
DSCF3770.JPG


vvt might not be the right word for it? easier than typing its got a moving pulley on exhaust cam
4 cylinder in line 1368 cc engine, with TOHC, 16 valves, continuous phase transformer and engine management with Bosch ME 7.6.3 integrated electronic injection/ignition system.

Toothed timing drive belt and hydraulic tappets.

The main innovation features the partial circulation of the exhaust gases (E.G.R.) in the combustion chamber produced by delaying the opening of the exhaust valves. However, the presence of exhaust gases (up to 25%) does not adversely affect the rapid and regular combustion because a shuttering system for the inlet ducts and the special asymmetrical design of the actual ducts considerably increases the level of turbulence. The variation in turbulence, between low speeds and full load conditions, is produced by means of a slider valve comprising a suitable shaped plate that slides between the intake manifold and the cylinder head plane opening or closing one of the two inlet ducts for each cylinder.

The modifications made to the timing and the intake and exhaust manifolds have improved performance with a further reduction in consumption and pollutant emissions.

edit: 1.4 16v grande engine code

199A6000
 
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vvt might not be the right word for it? easier than typing its got a moving pulley on exhaust cam


edit: 1.4 16v grande engine code

199A6000

Sound like its simply like the TVIS system on a 1985 mr2!! ie 4AGE. Whereby one of the inlet ports per cylinder is closed to improve low speed torque. The reason this is necessary is because the intake ports are too big. Although it does seem that fiat are using it for other reasons like prolonging combustion adn such like.

Definately not VVt or variable cam timing from that blurb. I might be missing something though.
 
Sound like its simply like the TVIS system on a 1985 mr2!! ie 4AGE. Whereby one of the inlet ports per cylinder is closed to improve low speed torque. The reason this is necessary is because the intake ports are too big. Although it does seem that fiat are using it for other reasons like prolonging combustion adn such like.

Definately not VVt or variable cam timing from that blurb. I might be missing something though.

TDQ,

I think the systems everyone are referring to are two completely different things.

The GP 1.4 does appear to have variable cam timing, by moving the cam pulley around the cam. The inlet closing function, is in my opinion totally seperate, and works exactly as you say.

My 4.6 V8 Mustang has the same setup. The 2 OHC's are timed variably by pumping oil into a chamber, thereby advancing or retarding them. There are also additional butterflies in the inlet manifold, that open and close via an electric stepper motor.

According to all the US bumpf I read, it ia all there purely for Emissions??

In a way, I'm glad the Panda doesn't have VVT, and the slidy port closing mech is going in the bin. I think I'll be going Motorcycle throttle bodies on this one????
 
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