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Quote Originally Posted by jrkitching View Post
You can, but you don't have to; on my 1.2 I don't normally go over 2000 rpm in the intermediate gears; it's never been driven over 3000 in the 80,000 miles I've owned it. It'll pull quite happily, albeit lazily, from about 28mph in 5th.

The reward is 55+ mpg over 80,000 miles, not bad for a petrol car.
I feel guilty for redlining mine a few times so far, seeing you say that.
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I feel guilty for redlining mine a few times so far, seeing you say that.
Its Italian, the red line is a target not a limit
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i am so sorry for all the questions now

the car i am buying has the steering wheel controls and blue tooth, so should it have the sat nav to go along side those?

when looking for a car most of the lounge models didn't have this - so its what swayed me - would a link to the car help? But if the sat nav is a big key to their functionality then its going to be an issue

http://www.central4cars.com/cars/fia...ounge/88965/40
That's a nice Panda you've got. Rare 2012 colour too. Around 11000 when new. Have seen the nav secondhand for not too much. Don't quote me on it fitting. New ones cheaper than replacement remote key so that's a bonus the car came with both keys.
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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

Example nav listing. The book pack with the car may help answer any questions.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blue-Me-Sa...qYiQ:confused:
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we made it home safe and sound after a long day travelling.

Used about half a tank of fuel getting home so not too bad

I absolutely love it and i am so glad to be back driving a panda again, my 4 year old is not convinced though and told me it's too small.
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My TA 4x4 which am swapping for my 3rd 1.2 this month uses a lot of fuel getting me to work. Half a tank getting across Britain sounds like luxury to me.
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These are all very interesting comments regarding the TA and the 1.2 engines. I am delighted with my TA. It has been completely reliable over 52,000 miles, and remarkably fuel efficient. Over the past 24,000 miles averaging 53.1 mpg according to the trip computer and, a true 51 mpg when measured filling brim to brim.

These are for the Cross so i consider the economy to be excellent, and on a par with the 1.2.

I use the car to commute 50 miles daily, and over the past year it has completed long drives from Norfolk to NW Scotland and the Inner Hebrides, Southern Brittany (with a bike on the back), Northumberland, the Peak District (several times), and used off road to access some sites.

Were such a package to be available, it would be interesting to know what a 1.2 engined 4x4 would achieve in terms of economy.

I don't think there is a more complete package in terms of capability, performance and economy, bar possibly the 1.3mJet engined version. I had one of these in my previous Cross and had marginally better economy.
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I reckon that PaulD either has the lightest right foot in Christendom, or his Cross TA was sprinkled with magic super-economy fairy-dust at the factory!

I've driven mine like a nervous nun with a sore big toe for the last 1k, and have achieved the dizzy heights of 46 mpg. Currently at 42 mpg overall, over 25k miles.
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Re: 1.2 vs twinair

Hi.
It could all be down to the number of cold starts. My Rover 75 2.5V6 auto only managed 19mpg round town which is my main usage. On a run from Tain to Kilmarnock it did 36mpg. The Panda is doing the mid forties in comparison to 19 in the Rover. For me it's wonderful so I don't mind giving it a bit of welly now and again.
I know I can do much much better if I wish. Years ago I did a Mobil economy run in a 1971 Skoda 100 and got 55.1Mpg, I will need to dig out the certificate if I can find it.
Perhaps on the next fill up I'll do what I did then.
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I'm convinced, though have no empirical evidence for this other than the good economy I get from my TA, that virtually all my driving is on traffic free B and C-class roads is a major factor in generating good economy figures. There is no pressure to keep up with traffic flow, the nature of the roads, and the characteristics of the TA encourage driving at a near constant speed between 40 and 50mph. This is reflected in my long term average speed over the 24k miles of 31mph.

In addition I rarely make journeys less than 25 miles. When I have made a lot of journeys of 10 to 15 miles or less economy noticeably suffers.

Finally, any city driving kills the economy.
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I'm sure this is right. Dual-carriageway trips (I hesitate to use the word 'blast') at 60+ cause the average mpg to drop like a stone. But I still reckon I need economy driving lessons from PaulD. Race you round the Southern Bypass? Slowest one's the winner!
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Hi.
It could all be down to the number of cold starts. My Rover 75 2.5V6 auto only managed 19mpg round town which is my main usage. On a run from Tain to Kilmarnock it did 36mpg. The Panda is doing the mid forties in comparison to 19 in the Rover. For me it's wonderful so I don't mind giving it a bit of welly now and again.
I know I can do much much better if I wish. Years ago I did a Mobil economy run in a 1971 Skoda 100 and got 55.1Mpg, I will need to dig out the certificate if I can find it.
Perhaps on the next fill up I'll do what I did then.
I think you're definitely onto something there. My economy on long trips is much better on a series of smaller trips on similar roads. I think the car uses a lot of fuel on start up. When it was running in it seemed to run really rich to the point where the exhaust looks sooty. That seemed to settle down after the first few thousand miles.
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These are all very interesting comments regarding the TA and the 1.2 engines. I am delighted with my TA. It has been completely reliable over 52,000 miles, and remarkably fuel efficient. Over the past 24,000 miles averaging 53.1 mpg according to the trip computer and, a true 51 mpg when measured filling brim to brim.

These are for the Cross so i consider the economy to be excellent, and on a par with the 1.2.

I use the car to commute 50 miles daily, and over the past year it has completed long drives from Norfolk to NW Scotland and the Inner Hebrides, Southern Brittany (with a bike on the back), Northumberland, the Peak District (several times), and used off road to access some sites.

Were such a package to be available, it would be interesting to know what a 1.2 engined 4x4 would achieve in terms of economy.

I don't think there is a more complete package in terms of capability, performance and economy, bar possibly the 1.3mJet engined version. I had one of these in my previous Cross and had marginally better economy.
I'm glad someone else is getting similar figures to me. I was beginning to think Fiat had put the wrong engine in my car. A 1.2 fitted with a system that makes Twin Air noises through the stereo.
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Think Im going for the 1.2 when the time comes to step up to the new Panda
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I reckon that PaulD either has the lightest right foot in Christendom, or his Cross TA was sprinkled with magic super-economy fairy-dust at the factory!

I've driven mine like a nervous nun with a sore big toe for the last 1k, and have achieved the dizzy heights of 46 mpg. Currently at 42 mpg overall, over 25k miles.
Zacly - identical average MPG and total distance as mine. I think we've been here many times before, but steep (Surrey) hills within half a mile of a cold start kills my economy. As does stop-start traffic, which I encounter most of the time. But let's not get hung up about mileage figures again, as the overall cost difference on a typical 6-8000 annual total is not exactly massive. If you do 7,000/year at the low-end a average of 43mpg, a year's worth of fuel will cost 886 (@ an average of 1.20/litre). Drive like a nun and make 48mpg (at the cost of any fun or 'progression'...) and you'll save precisely 92, that's all.

For what it's worth, on a trip to Le Mans and back this year, over about 700 miles, in 30C or more heat, with full A/C, back seats down full of camping gear, sitting at a GPS measured 130kph, I averaged only 38mpg, so maybe my car's a bit of a duffer
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