I just happen to running around in a TA 500 at the moment, just like the car too much to break it!
Technical Any Twin Air 141A projects planned. ?
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Technical Any Twin Air 141A projects planned. ?
Just give me a TwinAir donor car, a 141A Panda and £5k and I'll do it for you, retaining the factory ECU and fuelling and subsequent reliability. I'd like to do it for less, but can't justify the time out of work otherwise!
BTW, still rolling around in my 1.4 16v Panda every day since I made it. The most reliable car I've ever owned. I'd like to see more modern engines in 141A Pandas myself.
I'd like to see a twinair fitted too. Hoping someone will ask me to do it one day, I reckon £5k would be a good price!
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Retaining the factory ECU. ??
How will you eliminate the CAN-bus issue. ??
Does the factory ECU work in a car without CAN-bus body-ECU.
You just take the body and engine ECU over and wire them up like they were in the donor car. Use immobiliser system with key as intended. This requires reading and understanding the eLearn documents you can get from Internet easily enough (like FIATForum). You can then use the wiring diagrams to pair down the loom from the donor car. No amazing computer knowledge or tools required. However, I would recommend MultiECUScan or whatever they call it now so you can see what the engine ECU thinks is going on.
I did it in my Panda and my Uno T-Jet, so it can be done. It is time consuming and potentially unpredictable as you suggest, but the engine will start and run without a lot of stuff. Just because your seat belt sensor is bust, the ECU doesn't stop your car from running - that would be dangerous. I would agree however, that as time goes on, this sort of thing will become more difficult and maybe impossible or not worth it. For example, perhaps if the seat belt sensor is not there, the car limits the performance of the engine. Unlikely, but possible. I've found FIAT/Alfa stuff to be very permissive with huge "fault" lists.
I haven't kept up with cars built after 2012 as information is now behind a paywall on the whole. The more sensors that are added for driving aids, the worse the transfer would be, but it depends on how it affects the outcome, which is basically undocumented and unknown until you try it. Seems sensible to find donors with the oldest versions of engine setups you like.
I did it in my Panda and my Uno T-Jet, so it can be done. It is time consuming and potentially unpredictable as you suggest, but the engine will start and run without a lot of stuff. Just because your seat belt sensor is bust, the ECU doesn't stop your car from running - that would be dangerous. I would agree however, that as time goes on, this sort of thing will become more difficult and maybe impossible or not worth it. For example, perhaps if the seat belt sensor is not there, the car limits the performance of the engine. Unlikely, but possible. I've found FIAT/Alfa stuff to be very permissive with huge "fault" lists.
I haven't kept up with cars built after 2012 as information is now behind a paywall on the whole. The more sensors that are added for driving aids, the worse the transfer would be, but it depends on how it affects the outcome, which is basically undocumented and unknown until you try it. Seems sensible to find donors with the oldest versions of engine setups you like.
