Panda Injectors Light / Rev Problems - Please HELP

Now had the 1.1 Selecta on the road for about 2.5 months and the problems I'm having seems to be getting worse.

I forget where I heard it from, but Fuel Injected Panda's do seem to be a pain in the backside and nothing but problems waiting to happen.

I'm having two problems and I'm beginning to think they're related. 1st of all the injector light would come on when traveling around 80, but over the months this comes on randomly at anything above 60, and even once at 30 I think.

It happened last night on the A47 on my way beck to college at Easton. I came off of the trouse flyover, and was ambling along at between 60-70, sticking at 3000rpm give or take 200rpm, and about half way along the 10 mile strech the light came on and didn't go out until i came off of the dual carrageway. When it was on there was no other sign's of problems, e.g. handling, or power.

The 2nd problem is intermittant. The car won't hold its revs sometimes. It will idle fine, but when it come to accelerating it will jurk and loose power, more like fuel startvation than misfire, but I think there is some sort of electrical infuince on this as when in neutral you can hold you foot on the accelarator in the same place, the the rev's will go up and down. (I have taken a video of the rev counter with this in neutral, and will try and add).

I am Studying Land Based Tech at college so am surrounded by mechanics of all types of machinery and they're all baffeled, telling me to check pulgs, air intake, etc, which I have done and all seems fine, so I thought I'd come to the good ole experts at the forum.

Please shed some light someone.

Ps. the car had a full service less than 3000 miles ago, and sorry about the masses of spelling mistakes, writing quickly.

I've had the same.

I can be driving around town and the injector light comes on but more often than not it's on the motorway above 40-50 mph. The other problem I have is that it's fine on the motorway but as soon as I come off and get stuck in traffic, it starts to rev up gradually, on and off and then hit maximum revs. It stops by easing the accelerator pedal but starts again as soon as I take my foot off it.

I have put some injector cleaner in the tank and this seemed to cure it for a while but it came back. The other thing people have mentioned is there's a small piece behind the acc pedal which sometimes needs adjusting or rather putting back in it's right place. It might be the same with yours?

Thanks for the quick reply spankysmagicpiano, lol.

Shall check that, I was beginning to wonder if it was perhaps something to do with the pedal, as it was creaping in reverse the other night, and this is one automatic which isn't designed to creep in forwards or reverse like others.

Was the Panda you had similar with a manual or auto?

I was tempted to get the old girl Diagnostic checked, but at £75 I told the dealership where to shove they're diagnostic plug!

Manual.

If you search my posts on here then you'll find the thread and possible solutions.

Yeah - I keep meaning to get mine checked - the guy that does my car has a diag machine and he won't charge me. I'll try and get it done and post the results up here. Not sure when as it's of the road due to extortionate insurance policy!

most independant garages have diagnostics now, and can charge as little as £25.

To be honest thats what I though, but Both my usual mechanic and several independant ones have said it needs to go to fiat have one of they're diagnostic devices fitted as all makes use different devices, so what they use at Toyota or VW is different to what Fiat will use. Much pitty as the mechanic I use has got more stuff than one can emagine. I might have a try around Norwich.

Do other people have similar problems with fuel injection Panda's? The other two carb panda's have been no problem what so ever! Just seems ashame as the ond girl has only covered about 19300 miles which is far from high. I know it was sitting in a garage for 5 years until mid July this year. Do you think anything could have packed up?

thing is, when fuel injection goes wrong, like electronic ignition and ECUs, its hard to sort out, or expensive as in the diagnostic route. get another carb Panda, they are so simple to maintain.

Linda has run a 1100cc Auto Panda for three years now only thing I'v had to do is to fit a mid section exhaust pipe. Replace radio after two low life's nicked it and broke rear heated screen to get in. Engine light has never been a problem. If it comes on ecu has picked up a problem that it can not self correct, ring round and find a garage that has the right kit to read the panda ecu. If you get no joy I know of a garage that has the kit but he is near Denholm, Bradford. West Yorks. prob to far for you to come??

Hi allen, already done the exhaust from cat back, lol.

I'll try around locally a bit more to see if anyone can 'plug it in'. Its just at the point where it's anoying more than anything else. As I said it never seems to make the car feel any different, probably just a lose connection on / or faulty sensor.

It makes me laugh, out of all the things you can buy 2nd hand off of ebay, a diagnostics code reader isn't one I've seen, and I've even managed to get my hands on a Panda 'Dealer ship service manual'!

I'll bet it will be a sensor playing up, if its not affecting the running live with it.
It still dosen't sort the problem out, and given the poor daylight most days it's in yer face all the time just to remind you

I agree with Alan and probes are fairly cheap...

Chris and I had problems with our selectas that sounded the same, warning light and poor running. Chris stuck a new Lambda probe in and it solved his problems. I on the other hand took more drastic action

Jim

How drastic is drastic? and how much would I be looking at for a lambda sensor?

I think they are about £50-70 it might be worth asking one of you garage mates to put it on the Exhaust test that they use for the mot test that would tell them /you if its failing

Hi,I bought a manual 1.0 clx injection 93 on a k plate and I had an intermitant running problem that gradually got worse and worse.The car would run fine one minute and the next it would buckeroo and kangeroo down the road it was very anoying and sometimes it would fail to start after dying taking off from standstill, when slowing down and trying to accellerate again.I needed the car to be reliable so I gave it new s/plugs,ht/leads,the three filters,coilpack,injecter cleaner,dissy cap,rotor arm,engine oil,t/belt,gearbox oil,and to my dismay it was still not cured.Various mechanics told me it was ecu so my mate has the same car as me so we swapped ecu's and it was still the same then I swaped over distributors and hey presto! running sweet as a nut.

except that most selecta's use coil packs...