hi there,
just wondering if any one can tell me
why my wheel sticks out on an angle,
on multipla,
the bottom of the wheel is further out
than the top so the top is tucked right
under the arch. the passenger side
is ok , any help and advice is most
apprieceated.
kind regards.
lisa.

Like this?:

https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/277131-rear-wheel-leaning-big-time-suspect-trailing-arm.html

widemouthfrog said:

Like this?:

https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla/277131-rear-wheel-leaning-big-time-suspect-trailing-arm.html

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I see a car with a rear wheel worse than that on the m25 the other day when I women stopped advised to get it seen to ASAP I can be dangerous by all accounts am I right

Is a very common problem on multiplas
The radius arm is worn
Shop 4 parts sells the kit to refurbish them and ill suggest you do both sides

yes, thats it but mine worse.
thank you for reply.

thank you all so much,
your all stars.
greatly appriciated.

Wheel sticks out

Good luck if you're doing it yourself, it can be a real b**ch to get the pivot bolt(s) out if they're corroded, as mine were.
They were so bad I had to cut/drill through both ends just to get the trailing arms out, and there was very little left of the bearings at all.
I ended up removing the subframe assembly complete, which isn't as huge a job as I first thought.

Good write-up here...
https://www.fiatforum.com/multipla-guides/279873-how-replace-trailing-arm-bearings.html
Plus my saga...

Edit; By the way, if you do do it yourself, watch out for the ABS sensors.
You can read about my hassles with them in the above link.
They will almost certainly be seized in place in the hub assembly, so if you need to remove them (to take the arms somewhere to clean them up and fit the bearings, you'll need to find the connecting plug (if there is one, and if it's even accessible).

What are the parameters prior to changing the bushes ?

When is it determined that the top of the wheel is teing in too much ?

ABS plugs are accessible.
they are under the plastic sill trim(if thats what its called)...basically undwer the black plastic strip on the floor that hides under the back doors when they are closed.

Look at WMF's total rebuild thread from last year for pics of same.
Marty.

Wheel sticks out

FiatFleetFamily said:

What are the parameters prior to changing the bushes ?

When is it determined that the top of the wheel is teing in too much ?

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Not sure what you're asking there FFF ?
If the lean on the wheel is noticeable, then I'd say it needs doing, pronto.
The longer you leave it the worse it'll get, trust me, I've been there
Leave it long enough and you may find you need new arms, rather than simply replacing the bearing assemblies.
Once the arms start to twist (due to worn bearings), water can get in and it'll all corrode pretty quickly.
I just caught mine in time, much longer and the arms would have been scrap.

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BikeDoc said:

Not sure what you're asking there FFF ?
If the lean on the wheel is noticeable, then I'd say it needs doing, pronto.
The longer you leave it the worse it'll get, trust me, I've been there
Leave it long enough and you may find you need new arms, rather than simply replacing the bearing assemblies.
Once the arms start to twist (due to worn bearings), water can get in and it'll all corrode pretty quickly.
I just caught mine in time, much longer and the arms would have been scrap.

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Mine lean and have done for about a year how much does it have to lean before it kills it

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pete123 said:

Mine lean and have done for about a year how much does it have to lean before it kills it

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That's what FFF has just asked, and I don't know the answer. There must be a service limit figure for permissible camber, but I've never seen one.

Not really what was asked they saying they r bent out of place mine look slightly cambered 5degrees no uneven tyre tread that's why I asked the one in picture looks like its at a funny angle and well over weight

pete123 said:

Not really what was asked they saying they r bent out of place mine look slightly cambered 5degrees no uneven tyre tread that's why I asked the one in picture looks like its at a funny angle and well over weight

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Impossible to say
Depends on many factors like what roads state is, mileage how many people you carry etc etc
If wheels are out if camber something is not right and needs looking at
Had same issue in mine multi, started with a slight lean then got worse in a matter of weeks i think due to the fact of many speed bumps round were i live
Is a common fault so i would just get it repaired and over with it before you ruin tyres and bend arms

Looks like I'm gonna have to get it sorted stupid question is it worth doing both at the same time only asking as I get bored easily and will get half way through and give up. Guess this is what I need from another thread http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=897&sku=2837

pete123 said:

Looks like I'm gonna have to get it sorted stupid question is it worth doing both at the same time only asking as I get bored easily and will get half way through and give up. Guess this is what I need from another thread http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=897&sku=2837

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I would do both sides
And yes thats what you need and you may have to ask a garage to push old bearing out like i did. Use plenty of wd40 and is a pig of a job to do

I think some people may be misunderstanding the actual problem here.
The Taper-Roller bearings in the arms are precision parts, just like your wheel bearings.
If a wheel has a noticeable lean, then the bearings are shot, not just a tiny bit worn, but totally knackered.
There is no camber adjustability on the rear wheels, the only time it alters is when the bearings start to 'go'.
As soon as they do, the seals will no longer do their job, as they won't be sitting square with the sides of the subframe, letting water and other c**p in.

I suspect they don't grease them very well at manufacture either, and not fitting grease nipples is just inexcusable in my opinion, mine now has them fitted.

I left mine a lot longer than I should have, and only just got away with only replacing the bearing assemblies (Bolts, bearings, spacers etc), instead of the arms themselves.