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3 cylinder engines..due soon..what are peoples experiences/expectations?

With the FIREFLY series due soon...the 21st century FIRE replacement.

Ive got a TwinAir. And a 2000's 1108 FIRE

Have owned..LOTS of the 4-cyl FIATS.. both petrol and diesel..

But have yet to drive ANY 3x cylinder car

Been a passenger in a few VAG Diesels.. make my TA seem extremely civilised..!!

Engines are where FIAT have consistently excelled...will be interesting to see how this pans out..

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Re: 3 cylinder engines..due soon..what are peoples experiences/expectations?

Well I once had a 3 cylinder DKW / Auto Union Munga but that was a two stroke

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I always thought the more you have the better it is but so many companies are going the other way, can anyone explain why?
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I always thought the more you have the better it is but so many companies are going the other way, can anyone explain why?
Cost/complexity.. and the strive
for 'GREEN'.

The firefly is apparently ..modular...

With architecture being shared between 3 and 4 cylinder units..

So far appear to be solely produced and sold in southern americas
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Hi,
I have a 3 cylinder engine in my Renault Twingo 898cc Turbo. At tickover it sounds a bit irregular, but once you are on the move you couldn't tell it from a 4cylinder engine. I'm amazed at the acceleration with the 6 speed twin clutch gearbox too, and just hoping that Fiat put the same mechanicals in a Panda .
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Re: 3 cylinder engines..due soon..what are peoples experiences/expectations?

Triples are usually quite fun little things. They have a tendency to like revs, and due to the offbeat firing interval, sound slightly like the 5cyl Audis of the eighties. The firing imbalance creates a sort of thrum, and slight vibration at tickover, but they can be quite smooth once running. They have a sweet range, where they spin nicely and quite smoothly.

Had a couple of the Corsa C 1.0 3cyl with BSM. Great revvy things, lovely noise, but do need the right gear at the right time, as will not tolerate wrong one. Was a Suzuki engine, so took lots of abuse, with no failures and no oil consumption.
Have experienced another recently, still loved it.

The Fiesta is a triple, although turbocharged, and is also a revver. You're welcome to have a go in it sometime.

I can't get my head around the twinair, a twin in a car makes no sense to me, even for the original 500 and 126, never worked for me. Quite looking forward to the new triple, although I can't see me owning one for a long time.
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Re: 3 cylinder engines..due soon..what are peoples experiences/expectations?

I have driven an C1 loads of times with the 3 cyl Toyota engine (Since the Aygo C1 and 107 are all same car)

Its a fantastic little 12v 3pot engine
Loves to rev
Can be a little gutless if you dont shift - as they dont recover from low revs as quick as a 4cyl would

One thing i did find tho - doing 70/80 alot on a motorway that the 3cyl is revving hard and DRINKS FUEL
Dont help when they have a small tank too

but around city's - country lanes - i find it a hoot to drive, love the nippyness off the line
It sounds just like 50% of a v6 engine too

A little rougher idle vs a 4cyl but its not that bad

If the mrs had another 3cyl i wouldnt say no to her
44k and except service, plugs and a clutch, its nowt needed ANYTHING

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Our current Mini is a 1.5 litre diesel 3 cylinder, doesn't seem to have the same go as the old 1.6 4 cylinder, but still quick enough and a lot more revvy.
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Is mpg noticably different..??
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Quote Originally Posted by Numptey View Post
I always thought the more you have the better it is but so many companies are going the other way, can anyone explain why?
Yes its mass histeria.

Leaving the EU is apparently also a good idea and with the Euro worth more than a pound today (quoted 1.11: 1) we might as well forget Fiats as we soon will not be able to afford them.....

I have a TA and while its fine, I just don't like it as much as 4 cylinder engines. Its odd as my mother had a Honda 600 in the 70's and that was a huge amount of fun. It ran to about 9000 rpm and went like a rocket until it expired at 60K

I do hope the twin air lasts longer. A friend has just had hers expire at about 120K and it needed a new engine, clutch, flywheel etc etc. I would have sold t for spares and started again myself.
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