It's the same as s-line or R-line or AMG line. Big wheels big bumpers, big badges, pathetic 4 cylinder diesel under the bonnet. It used to be people bought the badges and did it themselves now BMW will sell you a 1.5 diesel M sport for only 26k..
What's made you not grumpy but not smile either today?
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Perhaps he just chose not to put his foot down (118i = 136 hp; 118d = 150 hp) :idea:
Sounds like he out-accelerated the Golf next to him though, if you were left looking at the rear of his car :devil:
But seriously, I agree that M-Sport badges have no place on low-end models. They should be reserved for top-end models (who then de-badge to make them less attractive to thieves).
It could've been even worse. They do a 116d M-Sport (116 hp) !
It was a 118i. (I suspect as it didn't sound like a diesel)
I was sat behind the 406, once we all got to the end of the slip road I over took them both.
Golf is 150bhp (euro6) but isn't exactly supermodel svelte being a cabriolet.
I like M cars, my brother is restoring a e30m.
It cheapens the badge when they stick it on anything and everything.
A proper M car would be disappearing over the horizon as the light turns to green, it shouldn't be holding up an old man on his way to the allotment in his estate car
I should add out new (F56) Mini Cooper d has the 116hp Diesel engine.
1.5l 3 cylinder, its surprisingly good and quick off the mark for a little engine, but noticeably less quick than out old Mini Cooper d (R56)
And if some Internet forums are to be believed the new mini uses synthesised engine sounds in sports mode to make it feel more powerful
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M Badges have been around since the 90s in non M cars.
I had a BMW 323is - 2.5 litre straight 6 170hp, the centre console around the gearstick said M Sport and had the three colours next to it...
However - it was no an M Sport... they do it most of the time to look good
If it was an M Sport then it was very disappointing.
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Cycling home from work this morning. It was raining, overcast, grey and pretty miserable so I took a different route instead of the national sped limit sequence of blind bends and humpback bridge. This is a single lane track that goes through a conservation area where there is always plenty of wildlife.
In the fields to my left I noticed a few deer running along the edge so I looked a head for the gap in the ditch and hedge row, pulled into the middle of the track and slowed so they could cross ahead of me.
A few hundred yards later a six month old BMW MINI (fricking MAXI more like) bounded up behind me, slammed the brakes on (I was wearing full hi-viz and had three rear lights on so he obviously couldn't see me in time to brake safely) and the operator ("driver" would be too complimentary) leaned on the horn for a few seconds. It was roughly quarter to seven so just as well there were no neighbors eh?
Just as the horn was released all three deer crossed the road ahead roughly where he would have been if he was still driving at full pelt. I pulled over to the left and waved him by. He opened the window to spout abuse. I asked if he noticed the deer he would have hit if I hadn't slowed him down.
"They're only animals I don't give a f£$%!"
So I asked if he knew how much a replacement bonnet for his BMW MAXI was. I just saved him from about £3,000 worth of damage. Closely followed by my usual indignant.
"You're Welcome!"
More abuse and he tried to wheel spin off but the crappy cement mixer engine didn't have the guts.
So I casually looked at the number plate. Not bothered about the reg' but the...
"lease-line"
...scrawled across the bottom said it all.
I think hire companies should introduce mandatory IQ and attitude tests before allowing people to take their vehicles.
Nice to see the Deer on the way home. Shame about the Silverback in the poor mans Evoke.
In the fields to my left I noticed a few deer running along the edge so I looked a head for the gap in the ditch and hedge row, pulled into the middle of the track and slowed so they could cross ahead of me.
A few hundred yards later a six month old BMW MINI (fricking MAXI more like) bounded up behind me, slammed the brakes on (I was wearing full hi-viz and had three rear lights on so he obviously couldn't see me in time to brake safely) and the operator ("driver" would be too complimentary) leaned on the horn for a few seconds. It was roughly quarter to seven so just as well there were no neighbors eh?
Just as the horn was released all three deer crossed the road ahead roughly where he would have been if he was still driving at full pelt. I pulled over to the left and waved him by. He opened the window to spout abuse. I asked if he noticed the deer he would have hit if I hadn't slowed him down.
"They're only animals I don't give a f£$%!"
So I asked if he knew how much a replacement bonnet for his BMW MAXI was. I just saved him from about £3,000 worth of damage. Closely followed by my usual indignant.
"You're Welcome!"
More abuse and he tried to wheel spin off but the crappy cement mixer engine didn't have the guts.
So I casually looked at the number plate. Not bothered about the reg' but the...
"lease-line"
...scrawled across the bottom said it all.
I think hire companies should introduce mandatory IQ and attitude tests before allowing people to take their vehicles.
Nice to see the Deer on the way home. Shame about the Silverback in the poor mans Evoke.
Ds3 replacement is ordered....I should be happy it's replacement is not a diesel or a ds3
But it is an almond green C3 in this exact spec.
It has the turbo petrol though and weighs nowt for a modern car so despite looking as sporty as a Wellington boot it's about as fast as your average s-line, R-line diesel. Suppose at least that could be fun especially given the just over a ton kerb weight should mean it's very nippy 0-40..
But it is an almond green C3 in this exact spec.
It has the turbo petrol though and weighs nowt for a modern car so despite looking as sporty as a Wellington boot it's about as fast as your average s-line, R-line diesel. Suppose at least that could be fun especially given the just over a ton kerb weight should mean it's very nippy 0-40..
The acceleration of the old original mk2 punto was what made it a very fun little car to drive, a very low Range 1st gear so speedy acceleration but could go up to 30mph in first.
Newer cars with more power are likely to be more fun.
That said assuming that's a 1.2 petrol then the polo 1.2 R- line will hit 60 2 seconds quicker. [emoji848][emoji57]
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It's a 1.2 turbo 110 my figures on a polo would suggest it's slower by half a second. 9.3 seconds to 60 would be the official figure being small light and petrol you'd assume it is fast off the mark then tails off as you get going.
Edit looks like they've made the R line slower for 2017 now 10.8 seconds..however I was more thinking it would be a fun tool to wind up pretendy m-cars rather than actually traffic light gping other super minis. Although it would keep up with a Cooper D..
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I think it depends on the engine! The 1.0 litre petrol has more power and more speeds off the mark.
I didn't realise there was a 110 model and was looking at the figures for the less powerful model.
While we discuss the points of a r-line M-sport S-line etc, I've literally just watched an ad for the new Ford ST-Line..... Ffs
In any case the new citron looks good like the colour and respectable figures for a little car.
Rather bizarrely although I know they are not always the best I have a think for the quirkiness of citrons.
I like these and the cactus we had a few of 110 version as courtesy cars usually do late 40s mpg and the 3 cyl engine spins like the clappers. Combined with sensible sized tyres and springs that acknowledge that our roads are post apocalyptic they are quite relaxed things to pilot along. Got no control feel or anything like that but it has no sporting pretense, just happens to have a bit of shove. Ds3 is the exact opposite..looks sporty, rides badly, is slow.
Does rather help that we wandered in and they offered over 2 grand off as well so we're getting the top spec one for list of an 82bhp mid range one.
Our failure of the marea last week.
Turned out it' d shed the LARGE bolt from the stabilising engine/gbox the floorpan mount.
PIA to access the mount bush...
But once off the car I could check its thread dimensions...
And I found a spare bolt in a tin of parts from a
1978 FIAT. 127 SPORT...!!!
Then on a road test I spotted the one that had broken free after 110k miles
Turned out it' d shed the LARGE bolt from the stabilising engine/gbox the floorpan mount.
PIA to access the mount bush...
But once off the car I could check its thread dimensions...
And I found a spare bolt in a tin of parts from a
1978 FIAT. 127 SPORT...!!!
Then on a road test I spotted the one that had broken free after 110k miles
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Our failure of the marea last week.
Turned out it' d shed the LARGE bolt from the stabilising engine/gbox the floorpan mount.
PIA to access the mount bush...
But once off the car I could check its thread dimensions...
And I found a spare bolt in a tin of parts from a
1978 FIAT. 127 SPORT...!!!
Then on a road test I spotted the one that had broken free after 110k miles
Good to see you clearing up after you.
And I found a spare bolt in a tin of parts from a
1978 FIAT. 127 SPORT...!!!
Then on a road test I spotted the one that had broken free after 110k miles
I hope you put it back in your collection, just in case you ever restore a 1978 127 !?
Don't keep us in suspense.....where was it ? just outside your house, in the gutter ? or somewhere between here and your country cottage ?
Strangely - on the verge of a large roundabout.. just a couple of feet before the point where it made horrible noises...
Remarkable..
Strangely - on the verge of a large roundabout.. just a couple of feet before the point where it made horrible noises...
Remarkable..
It originally landed on the road, was picked up by a passing car, ricocheted off someone's windscreen to rest where you found it. Local windscreen fitter looking for you to offer his thanks.:devil:
After much gnashing of teeth and squabbling with BT, they have at last decided that they think my router is faulty. Yesterday they said they'd send a replacement. It arrived today.
Have now spent half of the day making all four computers see each other again, as they all see it as a new network. Now need a lie down.
Have now spent half of the day making all four computers see each other again, as they all see it as a new network. Now need a lie down.
