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Technical The new rear suspension finally appears

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Technical The new rear suspension finally appears

306maxi said:
Yeah but having your car for a few extra months is far better than waiting for one with better rear suspension. You'll get used to it after a while tbh :)
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....and its far better than not getting a 500 at all having missed out on the scrappage scheme.

So I'm still happy :D and looking forward to getting this car.

Been waiting a looooooong time for it :worship:
 
306maxi said:
Yeah but having your car for a few extra months is far better than waiting for one with better rear suspension. You'll get used to it after a while tbh :)
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You're right much better to get the car and if you don't compare it to the new one hopefully you won't notice.
 
stinkyparp said:
You're right much better to get the car and if you don't compare it to the new one hopefully you won't notice.
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Really you'll only notice going over bumpy road at speed. if in a few years I was thinking of rebushing the back of the car or putting coilovers on I'd consider changing the rear beam but tbh I think for the cost and bother at the moment a good set of coilovers is a better investment.
 
YouKnowWho said:
Please excuse my ignorance - why is having a new rear suspension such as a great thing? What's wrong with the rear suspension as it is?
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The current rear suspension is too stiffly sprung and is underdamped so when you go over bumps the rear end just jiggles about basically. I've had one occasion where I would feel that I wasn't driving all that enthusiastically and a bump in the road made the rear end of my 500 kick out a line a little bit.
 
306maxi said:
Really you'll only notice going over bumpy road at speed. if in a few years I was thinking of rebushing the back of the car or putting coilovers on I'd consider changing the rear beam but tbh I think for the cost and bother at the moment a good set of coilovers is a better investment.
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tbh i think it's going to be so much better than my 15 year old mazda!
 
306maxi said:
Hmmmmm I doubt it. The rear end of the 500 can be quite fidgety.
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Hmm i guess the coilovers would help eh?.

Believe me my car is very weird to drive, very vague power steering and zero feedback through the steering wheel too. Doesn't make for a confident drive!
 
stinkyparp said:
Hmm i guess the coilovers would help eh?.

Believe me my car is very weird to drive, very vague power steering and zero feedback through the steering wheel too. Doesn't make for a confident drive!
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Yeah, springs also help on their own as well.

I do wonder what you'll make of the 500. It has artificially heavy steering and isn't exactly feedback city either :) it's not horrible or anything and you can have a play with it but for me it doesn't have inspire that extra 5% confidence which would be nice to have
 
306maxi said:
Yeah, springs also help on their own as well.

I do wonder what you'll make of the 500. It has artificially heavy steering and isn't exactly feedback city either :) it's not horrible or anything and you can have a play with it but for me it doesn't have inspire that extra 5% confidence which would be nice to have
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Interesting, what did you have before? I've have quite a few fiats over the years old pandas cinqs etc and tbh i loved the cinq sporting handling and that had really heavy steering, i'm hoping it's going to be like coming home, you know familiar :)
 
stinkyparp said:
Interesting, what did you have before? I've have quite a few fiats over the years old pandas cinqs etc and tbh i loved the cinq sporting handling and that had really heavy steering, i'm hoping it's going to be like coming home, you know familiar :)
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Well i've never owned a small Fiat so couldn't possibly say!

My car history Fiat 131> Peugeot 504> Peugeot 406> Fiat 500

I've also has along the way the use of a Saab 900, A Hyundai Accent (yuck, my brothers car) and the wifes Subaru Legacy Turbo.

The 500 isn't horrible by any means but the suspension is in my opinion a bit of a blot on the car and the steering isn't as nice as it's been on any of the other cars I've driven for a period of time aside from the accent. But then again it was good enough for me when the back a bitstepped out around a sweeping bend at about 40 so I guess it's not horrible. Perhaps I'm just not a small Fiat person?
 
That's 72mpg and 0-60 in 10.5: brilliant really. I'm sure that with just a little more tweaking they could have got the CO2 g/km to below 100 though, and saved us yet more tax.

But it does seem quite expensive: does the Pop come with A/C now I wonder?
 
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Do we know when the suspension changes are going to filter through to the production line?

Thanks
 
No official word, but as soon as the new engines arrive I guess it'll be fitted to all 500s. Spring next year?
 
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