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Old 08-06-2005   #1
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Turbo Upgrade?

Hi,
Could anyone give me a tip which turbo I should choose to upgrade my Mk1 Uno ('89)??
The thing is, the turbo I have isn't very good anymore so it will have to be changed anyway.

Greatful for any suggestions.

The biggest problem is that it may not be too big... then it won't fit.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

AlexGS, Turboned, Fro$ty and Dunc are the ones to ask! I'm sure they've all upgraded turbos at some point and will be able to point you in the right direction.

So then turbo boys, what do you recommend?


Quote Originally Posted by Bryne
Hi,
Could anyone give me a tip which turbo I should choose to upgrade my Mk1 Uno ('89)??
The thing is, the turbo I have isn't very good anymore so it will have to be changed anyway.

Greatful for any suggestions.

The biggest problem is that it may not be too big... then it won't fit.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

Exactly boys, what do you recommend?
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

Depends what sort've power you want really and what you are using the car for. Like my car is used as a daily driver so i wanted something with a bit more kick but at the same time wanted to make my engine reliable so i went for a custom built T25 hybrid turbo. My turbo is capable of running 2 Bar of boost all day long and can deliver up to 230+ BHP although i am not running that much boost at the moment because i will blow my engine otherwise! LOL A T25 is similar in size to a standard turbo but produces more power as it uses different components and parts within the turbo such as a bigger compressor wheel etc. It will bolt straight on to the existing manifold as well. If you want serious power you need money and everything needs to be done properly, i.e Group N head gasket, head bolts, piston rings, intercooler etc. If you are totally mad like DUNC hehe then a T3 conversion is best for really big power such as 150mph+ whether thats safe in a uno is another matter altogether lol. A T3 conversion will require more work in order to fit onto the manifold and will be more laggy than a T25 but when the Turbo kicks in Boy will you feel it!!! And remember to make sure you have enough fueling, an FSE is a good way to set up the fueling when you upgrade the turbo or having a 5th injector setup.
I guess its a matter of what you want to use the car for and what you want to achieve mate. Anything is possible but depends how deep your pockets are

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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

as frosty says, best to go with a T25 due to the lag factor. if your planning on big power then a T3 would be the way forward but engine internals need to be uprated to cope with the big boost.

personally, you wont ever need anymore than a T25. i got a T25 on mine and it takes 20psi of boost no probs. get a mk2 uno turbo unit as these are garrett jobbies and are better than the ihi unit you will have on the mk1 and send it off for reconditioning and hybridising and turn it into a little T25 beasty. should keep you more than happy for a while.

cheers frosty, i am mad but im not running a T3....only a T25 but....................................if i am going to go to the next level, its full rebuild again with relocated turbo running a T34 hybrid with ALS

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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

A t25 won“t fit straight to the manifold.. You had a mk1 right?
The boltpattern for the IHI is a bit uncommon unfortunately.

If you have the skills, make an adapterplate.

or a new manifold like this
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

I also have a question. Is it possible to fit a small turbo kit in a 1.1 ie engine without a lot of modifications inside the engine (not changing the engine gasket or placing an intercooler) ?
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geom, check out this thread: https://www.fiatforum.com/lets-talk-fiat/14831-999cc-fire-turbo-kit-who-s-interested.html

Was toying with the idea last night actually - Apparently it costs a lot though.
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I don't want 100 more HPs. 50 will be enough
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

Quote Originally Posted by geom
I also have a question. Is it possible to fit a small turbo kit in a 1.1 ie engine without a lot of modifications inside the engine (not changing the engine gasket or placing an intercooler) ?
Van aaken do a turbo conversion for the cinq 1.1 but as mentioned its very expensive.your looking at £1000 for the kit without fitting. thats a low boost kit requiring no real engine modifications though oyu will need to get the fuellling etc set up
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What about the Van Aken turbo kit thing for the Sei sportings? 'cos they were the same 1.1 engines, right?
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Hmmm, it's a lot of money
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

*ding*
That's what all of this all boils down too.
Frosty mentioned I dump a turbo engine in my 1.1 yesterday (Ace Cafe meet), and a mate suggested that previously too. I think it would cost me about £3k to get that all done completely, and I don't want to outlay that much - I'll need the funds for uni which I start soon.

Hey, I realised what a dump valve looks like only yesterday!
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

to be honest on a car that has a turbo in its existing range it makes no sense to turbo a lower spec model. you could either buy a turbo model(recommended)or drop the turbo into a lower model remembering the other costs such as brake,suspension upgrades.
ive recently got a VAD high boost turbo cinq and its a whole heap of fun to drive but to pay for the conversion new would have been silly money
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Re: Turbo Upgrade?

there seem to be a few engines floating about on ebay, or maybe a rotten turbo with a good engine and do a transplant, personally having maxed out my fear factor on the M11 (yes it was stupid) i can safely say you really dont need more than 100mph in a turbo, it's just knowing that you WILL die in any accident above 70mph.

i think the smaller turbo method is the way forward, lots of around town grunt for cut and thrust
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