Technical Engine oil change intervals

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Technical Engine oil change intervals

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Thanks for the advice. I will try a new cam cover gasket first. I thought to do the work on a service so I do not have to drain the engine oil unnecessarily. Delaying the sump gasket work will give me time to assess the cam cover gasket fix.

I've shortened the service intervals from 15 000 km to 10 000 km? Is this beneficial at all.

The Citroën is out of warranty so I am the chief mechanic on that too. I recently did a 100 000 km service on it and it has not blown up yet, so maybe the service worked.
 
Re: Fixing small accident damage on an 1997 Uno 999 FIRE

good work man, regarding the service intervals.
For the last 100 000km i have been servicing my 1995 Uno beat beat every 10 000km without fail since i took ownership of the car from my mom and it has been running smoothly without any issues. it is now sitting at 251 000km.;);)
 
Re: Fixing small accident damage on an 1997 Uno 999 FIRE

I moved these posts from another thread, so we could find them later if we want to ;) Sorry for any confusion caused!

I think that how often you should change the oil depends on how contaminated it gets, which comes down to engine condition and driving conditions. I like the engine oil to be clean, as I've seen the insides of engines where the engine oil was clean and they are... clean, with no wear. Sorry for the obvious statement there :eek:

I know there are many people who say that dirty oil is a good sign - FIAT included (in the handbook there is a phrase to the effect of "new oil will look black soon after changing) and I agree in the sense that black oil has done its job removing carbon from engine parts, so it's a sign that it worked. But that's just the point - it's done it's job, so in my opinion, it's ready to be changed ;)

And, if I drain out dirty oil, I put the drain plug back in (leaving the oil filter on), add a litre or two of clean oil, and run the engine (idle only) for a minute, then drain again and remove filter. This extra flush helps to dilute the dirty oil that is left behind in the engine, which otherwise contaminates the clean oil you'd be about to put in. I know that may seem like a waste of oil but I only use the cheapest stuff for that purpose, it only needs about a litre, and we have recycling facilities for all drained oil. And it means that the new oil gets off to the cleanest possible start, prolonging its life.

Incidentally, a couple of litres of 'cheap' oil is cheaper than a can of engine flush (and again, although engine flushes are good, what about the oil left behind that is now super-dirty and contains the engine flush solvent?) So in other words, even if you use an engine flush before you drain the oil, I still think the quick run with a couple of litres of new oil is necessary.


On my Uno Turbo, I might change the oil after only three club outings and a bit of round-town driving (less than 2000km, in two years...) This is because I discovered that the turbo, worked hard, can dirty the oil in such a short distance.

On my Punto Sporting, I checked the oil after more than a year (10000km) and it looked as clean as the day it went in, so I left it... a clean engine, working gently on long runs, keeps the oil clean for long distances.

In cold starts, the oil can become diluted with petrol as well - another factor - so if the oil smells strongly of petrol, again it gets changed. Less of a problem in engines that get long journeys/high temperatures.

So in short I think you're making the right decision to shorten the service interval, but I would suggest adjustments depending on the condition of the oil that you drain out - because I still believe that clean oil is good, and dirty oil is bad. :)

-Alex
 
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Re: Fixing small accident damage on an 1997 Uno 999 FIRE

Thank you for the explanation. On the previous service the oil looked clean until about 8 000 km after the service, so I think I will be paying more attention when checking the oil level.

Do you think the same applies to diesel engines? I have a Citroën Xsara Picasso HDi and soon after previous service (less than 1 000 km) the oil was black. A friend of mine said this is because of carbon from the diesel fuel finding its way into the oil?
 
Re: Fixing small accident damage on an 1997 Uno 999 FIRE

Do you think the same applies to diesel engines? I have a Citroën Xsara Picasso HDi and soon after previous service (less than 1 000 km) the oil was black. A friend of mine said this is because of carbon from the diesel fuel finding its way into the oil?

Yes, I've noticed that diesels almost always seem to have dirty oil. Rather than carbon from the fuel, I suggest it might be blow-by of combustion gases past the rings, since diesels have a higher compression ratio. But that is a total guess.

Again, I'd suggest a short run on clean oil between draining the old and filling the new - perhaps that will help.

-Alex
 
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