Any thoughts on the effect using ZX1 oil addative might have ion the warrenty of the car?
Seems it would be encouraged by Fiat as it prolongs the engine life.
Just concerned about if I should do it on the quite or not worry?

I wouldn't use an oil additive.
The oil manufacturers spend a lot of time researching and developing oils, if a £4 can of goo improved things then I'm sure Mobil and Castrol would be ahead of the game and just add it when they refined it.

Much better off just using a good make of synthetic oil - such as Selenia, Mobil, Duckhams or Castrol to name but a few - and making sure it's changed when it's due.

Normally I'd agree but this is £64 per litre.
(you only need 250ml for a car)
I've always used it in my Honda CBR600 motorbike and I can always feel the results when it's added. Smoother and less noise. Better fuel ecconomy etc.
My last motorbike managed 100,000 miles on the engine and still going strong then. One treatment is good for 40,000 miles or so.
The addative was developed by Team ZX1 and has some impressive info on their website.
I know it is used by a number of the formula one race teams to good effect.
check out http://www.team-zx1.co.uk/main.cfm

Pat H said:

Normally I'd agree but this is £64 per litre.
(you only need 250ml for a car)
I've always used it in my Honda CBR600 motorbike and I can always feel the results when it's added. Smoother and less noise. Better fuel ecconomy etc.
My last motorbike managed 100,000 miles on the engine and still going strong then. One treatment is good for 40,000 miles or so.
The addative was developed by Team ZX1 and has some impressive info on their website.
I know it is used by a number of the formula one race teams to good effect.
check out http://www.team-zx1.co.uk/main.cfm

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100k miles on a bike engine, must be some good stuff

Don't do it!

General Remarks on Chlorinated Additives.

A number of ‘add-on’ additives intended to improve the performance of commercially available automotive lubricants have been marketed in recent years, under such names as ‘Xxtralube ZX-1’, ‘Metol FX-1’, ‘PPL Anti-Friction’ and ‘Activ-8’.All such products share the following characteristics with ‘X-1R Friction Eliminator’:-

1)They all contain chlorinated paraffin ‘exteme pressure’(EP) compounds first used in the 1930s in heavily-loaded industrial gearboxes, and in some automotive transmission applications, mainly hypoid gears.

2)They all corrode copper-based alloys at moderate temperatures, easily exceeded in all engine, and most transmission applications.This problem was recognised in the 1930s, and chlorinated compounds were never used in transmissions with bronze bearings or gears. No responsible manufacturer ever suggested using them in engines where their increasing activity at high temperatures could lead to piston ring corrosion and bore glazing. (For the same reason, modern ‘hypoid’ additives are not used in engines, even though they are much safer than any chlorinated additive.)

3)X-1R Friction Eliminator and its clones are based upon very outdated technology, which was abandoned by responsible lubricant manufacturers for automotive transmission uses in the 1950s. Chlorinated compounds still find applications in metal working, but their use is on the decline because of health and safety considerations.

4)When burnt, chlorinated paraffins produce corrosive hydrochloric acid, and organo-chlorine compounds including the highly poisonous phosgene gas. Apart from these corrosion and health hazards, with petrol engines the deactivation of exhaust catalysts is also a problem.

5)Unfortunately, these additives give spectacular results in simple EP test machines such as the ‘Falex’. As a marketing ploy, a demonstration of this type looks impressive to those not aquainted with the above facts. Also attractive is the low cost of chlorinated compounds, allowing profits of several thousand percent to be made.

Cheers
Guy

I'll hold off on the car for a bit then.

Surprised it didn't effect my Jap bike. It's a high performance all alloy engine and like I say I traded it in with nearly 100K on the clock and still running sweet. (well sweet for 100K)
I guess you only use a very small amount that gets flushed at the next oil change. So the only stuff left is already in place.

ZX1 is not an oil additive so there's no effect on your cars warrenty. It uses your cars oil to distribute the colloidal frictionless material which is less than 1 micron around all the metal parts pf the engine. The hotter the environment the more it bonds to the metal parts. It is not PTFE so no residue is left clinging to the working mechanisms.If that does not convince you let me tell you a real life experience that I had with it.
I have a Volvo and I was going to Wales from Scotland. I changed my oil and added ZX1 as I always have done, prior to that I used Slick 50.
Petrol , water etc checked and off I went down the motorway.
After 3 hours travel I noticed my temp guage getting higher, so I turned up the heater. It went down again for a minute or two and started climbing again. Pulled in at the next service station and looked under the bonnet. No burst hose, no leaks and everything seemed normal. The engine was hot, but what do you expect travelling at 70+ for 3 hours. I let the engine cool down, filled up with petrol and off I went again. 20 minutes later the oil light came on, and off and on again. I was so near where I wanted to be I ignored it and drove another 50 miles or so.
Got to my destination and called the RAC. The patrolman examined the car and jacked it up and found that the oil flywheel had collasped and was not pumping the oil around the car. In effect I had travelled 50 miles + with no oil circulating around the engine. #he was surprised that the engine had not seized up or worse still blown out the core plugs. My only explaination was the ZX1 saved the engine. Later it was taken to a Fiat service station and the mechanics agreed that it was probably the ZX1 had protected the engine.
So I swear by it, and both my cars have it in with every oil change.

ZX1 is not an oil additive so there's no effect on your cars warrenty. It uses your cars oil to distribute the colloidal frictionless material which is less than 1 micron around all the metal parts pf the engine. The hotter the environment the more it bonds to the metal parts. It is not PTFE so no residue is left clinging to the working mechanisms.If that does not convince you let me tell you a real life experience that I had with it.
I have a Volvo and I was going to Wales from Scotland. I changed my oil and added ZX1 as I always have done, prior to that I used Slick 50.
Petrol , water etc checked and off I went down the motorway.
After 3 hours travel I noticed my temp guage getting higher, so I turned up the heater. It went down again for a minute or two and started climbing again. Pulled in at the next service station and looked under the bonnet. No burst hose, no leaks and everything seemed normal. The engine was hot, but what do you expect travelling at 70+ for 3 hours. I let the engine cool down, filled up with petrol and off I went again. 20 minutes later the oil light came on, and off and on again. I was so near where I wanted to be I ignored it and drove another 50 miles or so.
Got to my destination and called the RAC. The patrolman examined the car and jacked it up and found that the oil flywheel had collasped and was not pumping the oil around the car. In effect I had travelled 50 miles + with no oil circulating around the engine. #he was surprised that the engine had not seized up or worse still blown out the core plugs. My only explaination was the ZX1 saved the engine. Later it was taken to a Fiat service station and the mechanics agreed that it was probably the ZX1 had protected the engine.
So I swear by it, and both my cars have it in with every oil change.

Well it went in the car at the end of the warranty anyway and is now in my motorbike as well. I too feel it will extend the engines life. I've read the various contradictory information on the internet but have never experienced the claimed downsides. It's a relatively cheap investment and if it does prolong the engines life or reliability it's worth it.

Oil flywheel??????. Overheating blow out frost plugs????????? I rest my case.

No idea what that means. Cars done nearly 60,00 miles some of those in non stop runs to south of France. never had a problem.
Doesn't burn any oil. Never loses any. No smoke. No knocking runs smooth.
I rest my case as well.

A friend of mine used ZX1 in his Alfa, his experience was that he increased fuel economy by 2 / 3 mpg and got quieter and smoother performance.

BUT he also found it made the engine run hotter than normal, causing things to wear out early. This is what he told me anyway, I dont understand it.

It has a definate effect on performance and economy but it does have a negative side, you have to balance whether the positives outweigh the negatives.

FDF said:

A friend of mine used ZX1 in his Alfa, his experience was that he increased fuel economy by 2 / 3 mpg and got quieter and smoother performance.

BUT he also found it made the engine run hotter than normal, causing things to wear out early. This is what he told me anyway, I dont understand it.

It has a definate effect on performance and economy but it does have a negative side, you have to balance whether the positives outweigh the negatives.

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What is the negative effects?

.. Also anyone here still using ZX1, seems to be getting a lot of great reviews on Amazon but not that much about it online or on YouTube

Alfa will be scraped by now, despite or because of ZX1...

Don't bother it won't offer any benefit any good engine oil won't allready
If it is as good as they say they would have lisenced it to include it ready mixed in the oil