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Old 31-01-2019   #1
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Has anyone in PDF the service / repair manual of Fiat tipo/egea 2017 ?
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I doubt anyone will have.

Up until early 2018 the service manuals for later FCA cars were only available via an online subscription or on a purchasable (expensive) USB stick called KeyLEARN.

Post early 2018 KeyLEARN was withdrawn by Fiat and now only online subscription is available. Haven't look recently at the rates but they used to be a 6 Euros per hour going up to 1500 Euros for a years subscription.

As for the KeyLEARN USB stick then although they can be copied they will not run. This is because all the files are 256 bit encrypted and digitally tied (DRM) to the actual USB stick. So far no one has been able to crack a KeyLEARN device which is why no manuals are appearing on the web.
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I want it cause I have a issue with the left backlight of heater control. It seems that one light bulb it's broken. It's off the warranty protection as they told me. I want to know how can I replace and if I can't and it's not a fix part.
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It'll be an led,best to take the panel apart and try to match the specs,that's the cheapest option.
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It'll be an led,best to take the panel apart and try to match the specs,that's the cheapest option.
Indeed. Unlike old more traditional "down to bare bones repair" Service Manuals todays manuals often just focus on FRUs (field replaceable units). They give wiring and connector info, diagnostic guides and how to remove and replace units.

A simple example of which may 500X owners have experience is the external temperature sensor. It is an integral part of the wing mirror, could easily be replaced by someone familiar with the required knowledge, but Fiat do not supply the sensor. Instead you have to have a full new mirror (housing, motors, heated glass, etc) all for around £175 instead of a sub £1 item. Absolutely criminal waste of precious earth resources.
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It'll be an led,best to take the panel apart and try to match the specs,that's the cheapest option.
If it's a led it has to be in warranty cause i have to replace all unit ! Tommorow I will go to the dealer and will see what they tell me.
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Update : I visited the dealer, it will replace all part it doesn't have a replacement buld on part list catalog. Maybe it's a led even the dealer doesn't know. Also in order to change the part it has many part in front panel to be disassembled.
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Update 2: finally I took the car from the dealer service. It's not a led light but ordinary light bulb 2.5w it's has 4 that are attracted to the car and not to the unit. Although I change it all the unit also. And all the job it's be done by assembly the center console and the glove box.
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Glad you got it sorted finally,but I'm very surprised that it's a bulb,I wonder how much Fiat saved in that decision ??
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What do you mean ? From the service told that from Italy the guide line was to change the part in warranty. Maybe cause it's new almost model does not happen often this failure.
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English humour !,I meant in 2019 a car company is still using filament bulbs, especially ones inside a unit, another example of Fiat cost cutting !
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English humour !,I meant in 2019 a car company is still using filament bulbs, especially ones inside a unit, another example of Fiat cost cutting !
Ok got it the problem for me it's not so much that has common bulbs and not led. But you have to disassemble many part to replace it and further more they don't have those buld as part in service manual catalog.
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That's my point,if a part requires an amount of disassembly to get to it why fit bulbs which have a limited service life compared to Leds ?
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