Technical Wheel bearing?

[Luisc]

Hi guys, recently i am have issues with a noise from the front left at speed when turning left , i was wondering if it could be the right or left wheel Bearing and did then test , they seem to have this play any idea ?and did Record it , seems possible?
Or this play could be normal?

 

[bugsymike]

Hi guys, recently i am have issues with a noise from the front left at speed when turning left , i was wondering if it could be the right or left wheel Bearing and did then test , they seem to have this play any idea ?and did Record it , seems possible?
Or this play could be normal?

You can't tell by manually spinning the wheel?
Often when going around a left hand bend and noise more apparent then the problem is on the right hand one as you are throwing the load onto the right hand side in a left bend.

 

[Luisc]

You can't tell by manually spinning the wheel?
Often when going around a left hand bend and noise more apparent then the problem is on the right hand one as you are throwing the load onto the right hand side in a left bend.

No i only ear the disc brakes , running nothing special, i noticed a brake pad wear indicador cable cut and and maybe it was touching something at speed , need to test it no that i trimmed it

 

[Luisc]

Did not solve it, seems to only do when turning to left , the Bearings usually do all the time right? Ij mot they noticed steering out of alignment could this be derived by it ? They have sayd that is only a tiny bit

 

[bugsymike]

Did not solve it, seems to only do when turning to left , the Bearings usually do all the time right? Ij mot they noticed steering out of alignment could this be derived by it ? They have sayd that is only a tiny bit

Rear wheel bearings are usually continuous noise, but fronts can change with loading as you corner.

 

[GettinBetter]

Is the gaiter split, or signs of weeping oil/grease on the gaiter? if no then...

DO this to both sides.
Grab hold of the drive shaft, and slide it towards the wheel and back and forth a few times.
Then gently push with your thumb the gaiter at a point near to the largest bellows towards the bearings, this forces the grease back into the CV joints, be careful to not split the gaiter, as if it's quite old it won't be so forgiving.

Please post back results after a test drive.

 

[bugsymike]

Personally in your video I couldn't see much in the way of movement, I was hoping you would spin the wheel if possible.
If not dragging you can sometime hear the noise.
Often a bearing can be noisy with no free play at all showing and vice a versa.

 

[Luisc]

Is the gaiter split, or signs of weeping oil/grease on the gaiter? if no then...

DO this to both sides.
Grab hold of the drive shaft, and slide it towards the wheel and back and forth a few times.
Then gently push with your thumb the gaiter at a point near to the largest bellows towards the bearings, this forces the grease back into the CV joints, be careful to not split the gaiter, as if it's quite old it won't be so forgiving.

Please post back results after a test drive.

No leaks at all thankfully, all gaskets seem great, i Will give it a go , thanks so just need to move it a bit back and forth and then press a bit on the gaiter close to the Bearing right?

 

[GettinBetter]

Yes, the gaiter is nearly full of grease, and forcing the grease back into the CV joint sometimes quietens it down again.

Be sure to rotate the wheel after each press, doing it four of five times on each wheel gaiter.

 

[Luisc]

Personally in your video I couldn't see much in the way of movement, I was hoping you would spin the wheel if possible.
If not dragging you can sometime hear the noise.
Often a bearing can be noisy with no free play at all showing and vice a versa.

It did some noise like similar to this when i moves slow up and down. if i spin the wheel i only ear the noise of the discs

 

[bugsymike]

It did some noise like similar to this when i moves slow up and down. if i spin the wheel i only ear the noise of the discs

That doesn't sound like a wheel bearing, more like the disc rubbing.
Just a thought, you haven't got a stone trapped between the brake disc and the tin shield behind it?

 

[Luisc]

That doesn't sound like a wheel bearing, more like the disc rubbing.
Just a thought, you haven't got a stone trapped between the brake disc and the tin shield behind it?

I think is unlikely since i take pretty good care( washing wheels , wheel well and calipers but definity not impossivel. I Will go check with the mechanic to see if he finds it , i checked previously with other mechanic and he Said is nothing wrong , but honestly the noise is not normal needs to be checked again thanks for the help guys once i solve it i Will post the solution

 

[Luisc]

Hi guys i am not finding the cause but i checked the rotor of that wheel and seems to have a bump on the disc, scrapped? Anyway the wheel does not do Bearing noise neither play , i am suspecting that could be warped discs could it be? The other disc seems ok does not have that bump.
Best regards

 

[bugsymike]

Hi guys i am not finding the cause but i checked the rotor of that wheel and seems to have a bump on the disc, scrapped? Anyway the wheel does not do Bearing noise neither play , i am suspecting that could be warped discs could it be? The other disc seems ok does not have that bump.
Best regards

If you suspect a warped brake disc, usually turning will make no difference, where I have noticed that issue is often heavy braking coming up to a roundabout and you may feel it through the steering wheel and also at the brake pedal.
Note, this is not to the point it starts to skid as you will get a shudder effect when the ABS braking kicks in.
Another way of proving brake shudder is on an Mot Station's brake testing rolling road as you will see the gauges for each individual wheel react differently, the bad one the needle will waver with a steady brake pedal application.

 

[jackwhoo]

I zoomed in on disc picture , appears to be a defect in the disc itself.
Replace the discs as a pair you may as well replace pads at same time.

 

[Luisc]

I zoomed in on disc picture , appears to be a defect in the disc itself.
Replace the discs as a pair you may as well replace pads at same time.

Exactly seems a deep Mark i dont know if that is the issue but i had wheel Bearing noises on other Cars and does not sound like this one, worth a try maybe the caliper is sticking but i dont notice any burning smell , yes pads and discs

 

[Luisc]

If you suspect a warped brake disc, usually turning will make no difference, where I have noticed that issue is often heavy braking coming up to a roundabout and you may feel it through the steering wheel and also at the brake pedal.
Note, this is not to the point it starts to skid as you will get a shudder effect when the ABS braking kicks in.
Another way of proving brake shudder is on an Mot Station's brake testing rolling road as you will see the gauges for each individual wheel react differently, the bad one the needle will waver with a steady brake pedal application.

In Mot all was fine except was a tiny bit misaligned steering nothing really bad , it does not shake in braking but seems to take a bit longer to brake than it was before, is a strange sound i Will try to see if the backing plate is rubbing into the rotor , but i would Guess a more metallic noise instead of a rubbery like when we go Over a road marker , i Will also try to swap the rear wheel with the front , to see if makes any Change. (All new tires 1000kms done )

 

[bugsymike]

In Mot all was fine except was a tiny bit misaligned steering nothing really bad , it does not shake in braking but seems to take a bit longer to brake than it was before, is a strange sound i Will try to see if the backing plate is rubbing into the rotor , but i would Guess a more metallic noise instead of a rubbery like when we go Over a road marker , i Will also try to swap the rear wheel with the front , to see if makes any Change. (All new tires 1000kms done )

Yes, a bit of stone or similar can rub against the disc if trapped between that and the tin shield/backing plate and be more noticeable on cornering on way, but doesn't sound like the noise you are describing.
The stone usually sounds like a brake pad worn to metal against the brake disc;(

 

[Luisc]

Yes, a bit of stone or similar can rub against the disc if trapped between that and the tin shield/backing plate and be more noticeable on cornering on way, but doesn't sound like the noise you are describing.
The stone usually sounds like a brake pad worn to metal against the brake disc;(

Yes i already checked that , all clean no luck :/ seems tire noise like but like rubbing thing , and only above 90 kmh CV joints boot all Nice and no leaks could it need greasing? Maybe really is the Bearing but is a unusual sound for me from bearings, i changed the back wheel for the front to see if could make a Change no luck too, also the brake pads are in ok condition.. some say videos talk about the intermediate shaft too.

 

[bugsymike]

Yes i already checked that , all clean no luck :/ seems tire noise like but like rubbing thing , and only above 90 kmh CV joints boot all Nice and no leaks could it need greasing? Maybe really is the Bearing but is a unusual sound for me from bearings, i changed the back wheel for the front to see if could make a Change no luck too, also the brake pads are in ok condition.. some say videos talk about the intermediate shaft too.

I have had bearings with no apparent noise on spinning the wheel but on changing the bearing have found the hardening had worn on bearing outer ring, but not common.
Also the support bearing on side of engine for right hand drive shaft (O/S over here) can become noisy, generally noisy increasing with road speed and a bit more on a right hand turn as wheel goes faster on inside of corner. Normally just a steady whine in a straight line.