Technical Uprated Pump???

[cinq 1.4 turbo]

I found out why the turbo was running out of fuel.. still running the standard pump

Anyone know if a punto turbo one will fit or any ideas on another pump which will deliver enough fuel?

Thanks Theresa

 

[dave]

you can get external electric pumps i think, the hot rodders on garyboys might know about them, or i have a punto 75 elx pump not sure if it will fit but its a bit more powerfull than a punto 55 or 60 pump.

 

[cinq 1.4 turbo]

Its back at MJS at the mo,iam just trying to find a quick way of sorting it as i want it sorted so i can get it set up asap.
It could be there some time if they have to work out what will actually fit.

Thought there might be somone on here who may have had to do somthing similiar.
Thanks for the offer dave il keep it in mined

Theresa

 

[dave]

electric external ones i am thinking of are multi fit, they are just like a round cylinder with 1 pipe in an 1 pipe out, there was a guy looking for 1 up my mates yard the other day, i am up there tomorrow i'll ask up there see what they say.

EDIT smokeme on here may be best bloke to ask on here, he does some pretty unsual conversions, there might be something on his site http://smokeme.coconia.net/Smoketech_home.htm

 

[dave]

just rembered what a cinq tank looks like, a punto pump wont be a straight swop.

 

[dave]

punto pump pic

 

[Luke]

Those fuel pumps are called facet fuel pumps dave IIRC. You can get competition ones that can be mounted outta the way in the boot or similar, and would provide enough fuel. Just put one in my dads kit

 

[custard]

punto gt guys fit delta integrale pumps though i dont know if its a straght swap for them
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/Default.htm is another site used by gt'ers

 

[paul_treg]

Hi,
A Sei MPI pump should be a straight swap and be the high pressure type your looking for..

Thanks
Paul T

 

[custard]

what sort of flow rate does the mpi pump have?

 

[J333EVO]

You need that sorted ASAP as fuel starvation on a turbo car leads to detonation which melts pistons! integrale fuel pumps are variable in pressure as its a proper homolgation item, standard it runs 2.5bar, but if you up the boost ie with a chip, you up the fuel pressure to 3.2bar to stop detonation, AFAIK Cinq pumps only have 1bar of fuel pressure so the engine has to match this requirement, this is where the add on turbo sytems are good as they work with this pump no worries. Due to the price of the connectors tho (over£100 as they break as they get brittle with age) I would not go the integrale pump route unless you can get decent connectors with the pump, but I would go aftermarket look here http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/

Aaron

 

[TurboCinqy1250]

http://www.bosch-motorsport.com/en/aktuatoren/aktuator4.shtm

Bosch Hig Pressure Fuel Pump.

Have one to. 148L/H @ 5 Bar

Yesterday I was busy with my Fuel regulator. I was trying to start but it won't run, so i watched the pressure gauge and it was all around at 8 Bar. Little to much. I think the retourline was fully closed.

 

[J333EVO]

I forgot to add in my earlier post but too high a fuel pressure leads to bore wash, this is where the fuel actaully washes the piston walls causing massive ware when the pistons move up and down as they are not lubricated ,which means you then lose compression, burn oil etc etc end of engine, make sure that the pressure you use match's the engines.

Aaron.

 

[cinq 1.4 turbo]

I might be wrong but when MJS done the test on the fueling iam pretty sure the pressure was there but the cinq pump doesnt flow enough of the go faster juice.

The cinq was there 1st thing monday and i have'nt heard from them yet'just hope no news is good news.

 

[AIJ29]

Hi
I`ve got a brand new facet fuel pump(it`s a solid state one,little tiny gold box with red sticker on it) at my garage,my dads boss bought three for his speed boat and never fitted them)
If it`s of use make me an offer.
Cheers
Adrian

 

[TurboCinqy1250]

Cinq fuelpump is 110L/H @ 1 bar (regulated) with a max from 2 bar.

 

[smokeme]

Best option in my opinion is to install a complete MPI fuel tank, that way the pump is already better and is bolt on.

I always use inline pumps but these are noisy compared to in tank pumps but flow more.

 

[TurboCinqy1250]

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I Know the sound from the backseat

 

[cinq 1.4 turbo]

Thanks for all the ideas,ive spoken to MJS today and they think they have found a pump which is a direct fit.
So fingers crossed i can let you know next week if its all sorted out.
Then time for the rollers