Ok, this thread is now going nowhere. A point has been made and a solution come up with (see "Bravo Forum Chat Room post)
I apologise about the firewall issue and the chatroom. At present, there's nothing we can do about this. We're waiting to hear from Network 54 and Mr Renowden, the Forum owner.
I am now going to lock this thread as it will just descend further into a slanging match, and we have had bad experiences of those before.
If you disagree, please don't start a new thread. Contact a moderator, our names and emails are at the top of the front page. For some reason, my email isn't (sob..Mr R, any chance of fixing this ?) so here it is....feel free to mail me or contact me on MSN Messenger [email protected] .