The Smoking Law

[x Alex x]

Is a good idea.

BUT

I think Pubs and maybe other public places like restaurants should be given the chance weather to be smoking or non smoking, that was everyone wins.. i'm sure it's a flawed idea though..

all i can think is you're buggered if you hate smoke and your local chooses to be a 'smoking pub'.

meh.. just an idea.

thoughts?

 

[mark16v]

alot of the pubs round by me have tryed to acomadate by putting out side seeting with shealter, but since the ban came in place i aint been to a pub, been a smoker,

 

[Venters]

Thought the ban started a while ago in England?

We had it up here in Scotland for a couple years now. Best thing that ever happened to going out at night.

 

[mark16v]

Thought the ban started a while ago in England?

We had it up here in Scotland for a couple years now. Best thing that ever happened to going out at night.

it did lol

 

[Cian]

Had it here first, would never go back to the old system.

 

[dan-the-man]

Some of the outside smoking areas are better than inside the pub anyway

 

[Helz]

Best thing that ever happened to going out at night.

Too true - you can't imagine how nice it is to wake up in the morning and NOT have a faceful of smokey hair

 

[Chas Uno]

Thought the ban started a while ago in England?

1st July 2007 if I recall correctly.

thoughts?

The whole point behind the ban was public health. Allowing pubs/ clubs to opt out would defeat the purpose of bringing it in.

Personally I think it is a great idea. It was one of the kicks I needed to quit as I decided that I didn't want to be one of the desperados standing outside in the rain just because I wanted/ needed a cigarette. It also made it a lot more pleasant for the non smokers.

However, I do feel for those that still choose to smoke and have no-where to go unless the pub/ club provides sheltered/ heated outdoor areas. I know there have been cases where the outside area was made too 'under cover' and then became classified as an 'enclosed public space', meaning that to allow smoking was breaking the law. But as this is largely a universal measure across Europe and other western countries there's no going back. Quitting seemed easier than coping with all the hassle!

 

[Renegade_8]

There was nothing stopping a pub going non smoking before, but none of them did. it meant we went out less as you had to wear old clothes you wouldnt mind washing coz they stank of smoke and you had to breath in 2nd hand smoke and shorten your own life because a load of nicotine addicts could not get their monkey off their back. All because while they could get smokers and non smokers in landlords didnt care. Generaqlly I am a libertine, but any freedoms I want should not be at the expense of others

 

[Focus Owner]

just go in after hours

 

[StevenRB45]

just go in after hours

With a crowbar and bolt cutters?

 

[Focus Owner]

dont you have lock ins?

 

[levemircento]

its rarely I go to the pub these days, but even though I am a non smoker the times I have been since the smoking ban just seemed really strange, no ashtrays and nice clean air, and yeah not smelling smoke on clothes afterwards.

I do sympathise with smokers though, my other half smokes, how long will it be before they ban alcohol in pubs...

 

[x Alex x]

dont you have lock ins?

yeah, they dish the ash trays out, had the decency to ask first like, only when it's empty ish

 

[Chas Uno]

yeah, they dish the ash trays out, had the decency to ask first like, only when it's empty ish

Surely it's still classed as an enclosed space/ public area so a lock down shouldn't make any difference? Plus if people are working there then it's covered by workspace rules?

 

[x Alex x]

Surely it's still classed as an enclosed space/ public area so a lock down shouldn't make any difference? Plus if people are working there then it's covered by workspace rules?

well it's not open to the public anymore so i think it's fine

 

[Chas Uno]

well it's not open to the public anymore so i think it's fine

If employees are still working under lock down there then it's covered under health and safety/ smoking in the work space legislation surely?

BTW, this isn't an argument - I'm trying to work out when a public house is legally not a public house so people can smoke in it!

 

[Focus Owner]

we have had a lock in without the employees
my first time in that pub as well
yes everyone did pay
just meant your pint was to your style

 

[x Alex x]

If employees are still working under lock down there then it's covered under health and safety/ smoking in the work space legislation surely?

BTW, this isn't an argument - I'm trying to work out when a public house is legally not a public house so people can smoke in it!

yeah i know thats fine mate

uhm, not sure, if they host a private party can people smoke?

if they close the pub and entertain friends i know they can.

not sure about smoking in the work space, different thing but people who work on houses and stuff may come accross people smoking indoors in their own home.

really not sure..

 

[Chas Uno]

yeah i know thats fine mate

uhm, not sure, if they host a private party can people smoke?

if they close the pub and entertain friends i know they can.

not sure about smoking in the work space, different thing but people who work on houses and stuff may come accross people smoking indoors in their own home.

really not sure..

The exact limit to the legislation seems a bit smokey and hazy in this context - *boom* *tish*! (sorry! )

Aren't there some weird laws that private member casinos can still allow smoking? Maybe that's what's covering a lockdown?