which would be better out of the two and is there any other options? i want to lower it around 40mm is this a good lowering height for handling, if not which is? thanks alot kris
General springs or coilovers?
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General springs or coilovers?
coilovers would be better than just springs - depending of course on how good the brand were.
40mm seems a reasonably sensible height for lowering.
40mm seems a reasonably sensible height for lowering.
Conway
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i no this may sound stupid but whats the difference between them?
are they only better because of comfort? or do they help handling aswell??
In a standard spring and damper system the height of the spring is fixed. On a coilover system the base is typically mounted on a thread allowing the height of the spring to be adjusted.
Coilover:
Standard Shock:
Not the best pic but the only one I could find.
Coilover:
Standard Shock:
Not the best pic but the only one I could find.
so really the only thing better about coilovers in the height adjustment? also what springs would you suggest for cheapness and ride quality??
Not only height. They typically have rebound/dampening adjustment too. I have a feeling though that you're not likely to want to pay for the kind of performance they offer.
I've seen a magic figure of 35mm as a maximum lowering on standard shocks. After that you want to be buying matched shocks and springs.
I've seen a magic figure of 35mm as a maximum lowering on standard shocks. After that you want to be buying matched shocks and springs.
haha yeh anythink i can get cheap i will have it. rite i will give it a think over so thanks for the help
kris
kris
Coilover refers to the fact that the coil is over the shock..The Cinq fronts are coilover as std, and the backs arent. I dont think any manufacturers make rear coilover shocks for the Cinq as theyre hard to impossible to fit wthout some very serious mods to the rear suspension setup.
Hellcat - look at the design of one of your standard shocks and compare it to the Leda one, its the same!
Only difference is the rebound rate of the damper is adjustable in the uprated one.
As for handling...low as possible is best, if not very impractical - anything lower than standard will be better - not that its that bad to begin with.
Hellcat - look at the design of one of your standard shocks and compare it to the Leda one, its the same!
Only difference is the rebound rate of the damper is adjustable in the uprated one.
As for handling...low as possible is best, if not very impractical - anything lower than standard will be better - not that its that bad to begin with.
Badger_Benji
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Lowest isnt always best, ground clearance becomes an issue. As does driveshaft angle. Plus if you go too low you have to run stiffer to stop the car bottoming out, and then handling suffers. In a road car you are looking for compromise, of handling, ride quality, and practicality. Anymore than 40mm you get clearance issues, but 60mm is available, the fk coilovers allow the front to drop 70mm but the back stays put at 40mm.
Badger_Benji said:
u heethan, go wash your mouth out with soap
If you lower a car too much the suspension does not have enough travel to actually work, the car bottoms out or if its made stiff enough to stop this then become skittish across the less than smooth roads we have in the UK, may be good on a track, but then how often is it going there, therefore the car handles poorer and will in fact be slower as it will not corner as fast and in fact will in no way stop as fast as the brakes need suspension travel to function, this of course could make the car more dangerous especially on cinq brakes which are crapola!
I would say any more than 35-40mm you are going backwards in car evolution, any more its purely cosmetic.
Aaron.
I would say any more than 35-40mm you are going backwards in car evolution, any more its purely cosmetic.
Aaron.
J333EVO said:
In a nutshell, perfect
Cheers
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you say the fronts are already coilovers does this mean i can go and lower them 40mm without having to buy lowered springs?? and then just buy some springs for the rear??
mate... coilover is the type of strut, where the coil is over the shock.
however, height adjustable coil overs are the ones which can be "wound down" to lower the car usually upto about 70mm
if u buy 40mm springs for your cento, they will lower the car approx 40mm.
however, height adjustable coil overs are the ones which can be "wound down" to lower the car usually upto about 70mm
if u buy 40mm springs for your cento, they will lower the car approx 40mm.
J333EVO said:
And it looks damn good
Personally I would go the Coilover route then you can have 40mm for everyday driving for the hadling aspect as well as some comfort...
Then stick it on it's ass for shows :yum:
Although price will be the deciding factor willing to bet
i think im gnna have to get 35 or 40mm springs as i dont have a spare £200 + to get coilovers , so i will need a set of 4?? sorry if im annoyin you's but i havent gotta clue:bang:
, so i will need a set of 4?? sorry if im annoyin you's but i havent gotta clue:bang:
mase said:
lol never would of guessed that
lol
the beasto said:i think im gnna have to get 35 or 40mm springs as i dont have a spare £200 + to get coilovers
They come in sets of 4 wouldn't go any lower than 40mm on just springs as it will kill your shocks eventually...
ok thanks does anyone no where to get cheap good springs as looking round there still around £100
