Technical snapped cambelt

[saucysista1]

hey

im prob the most dense person when it comes to cars

was driving my 1.2 punto today and it started making a rattling noise then about 1/2 hour later car stopped and wouldnt start again... got out breakdown out and my cambelt had gone....

how much is this guna cost me and is it really worth it??

car is an S reg and has done nearly 100k...

any advice would be great

xxx

 

[arc]

hi, welcome to the forum. bugger about the cam belt.

Is the car a 1.2 Sporting, or just a Punto60. The Sporting has a 16 valve engine and the 60 has an 8 valve. If the belt snaps on an 8v engine then it won't do any damage, you just need a new belt and tensioner fitting. Budget around £50 at a garage (i think, ive never had a garage do the job).

If its a 16v engine then there is good chance its damaged the valves, and pistons too. Might be cheaper to source a new engine.

 

[thefishdude]

yeah as guy above sais if its 8v engoine then £50-£100 and dont belive them if they say it needs stripping down poin out its a non interference engine.

if its 16v engine then gonna cost ya £400+

 

[saucysista1]

hey..thanks alot guys

im pretty sure its called a punto 60...its not got any of the sporty features...so dont think its a 16 valve but as said before im pretty dense...

recovery guy freaked me out earlier telling me id need a new engine which would cost in excess of £600...

gotta attempt to get it to a garage 2moro

thanks again! xx

 

[arc]

If it's a Punto60 then it'll be an 8valve engine.

What happens with most engines when the timing belt snaps, is the valves come in to contact with the pistons. Causing lots of damage. On the 8 valve FIAT FIRE engines, they're designed to be 'safe' or 'non-inteference' which basically means it's impossible for the valves to hit the pistons.

If the garage tell you otherwise, they're lying and trying to get money off you for a rebuild. It is not needed. Tell them to stick it and go somewhere else

 

[beau]

On the 8 valve FIAT engines, they're designed to be 'safe' or 'non-inteference' which basically means it's impossible for the valves to hit the pistons.

not all fiat 8 valve engines though, because the sporting 1.6 8 valve isnt safe

 

[arc]

true, nor are the 899's. I meant to say all FIAT FIRE engines are safe, but i missed that out.. i'll go add it in now

 

[saucysista1]

oh right ok

i just couldnt undetstand why the engine stopped. the cambelt was still intact just not pretty...

 

[arc]

the cambelt is toothed, if its shredded the teeth off it then it's not going to grip the pulley and without the cambelt turning the cam pulley, the cam doesnt move and the valves don't open and shut when they should.

 

[saucysista1]

ahhhhh now that makes sense then!

i phoned garage today and he recons about £250 so not so bad thats including labour and towing...guna get picked up 2moro, so ill let ya know how it goes.

thanks alot for ur help

xx

 

[arc]

how far is it being towed?

parts needed:

Timing Belt Tensioner

1.1 8v - 1.2 8v - 1.4 GT


Part Number: S4P561
Manufacturer: European

Listed Price: £16.65
Our Price: £12.49
You Save: £4.16 (25%)
Please note that All Prices Exclude VAT.

Timing Belt (8.00mm Pitch)
1.2 8v


Part Number: S4P547
Manufacturer: Dayco

Listed Price: £16.27
Our Price: £10.58
You Save: £5.69 (35%)
Please note that All Prices Exclude VAT.

So you're looking at £22 in parts plus VAT.

I'd ask them for a breakdown of where the £250 is going, it does seem steep :s

 

[teulk]

it all going on labour...........£130 per hr It took me 1 1/2hrs to do mine for the first time and im pretty sure it wouldnt take trained mechanics that long I would say they are over charging you. Do it your self and save £220

 

[christopher watson]

Where abouts are you, because if your near newcastle, i could put a new cambelt on for you if you buy the parts, and supply me with tea and custard creams

 

[faster4_tec]

£250

thats worth about as much as the fricking car!!!

£100 absolute tops and thats for those :tosser: 's @ fiat to do it.


Take it to a small family run type garage round the corner, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE IT TO FIAT< AS THEY ARE TOSSPOTS< AND ACTUALLY DONOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING (in quite a few cases I hear too )

as has been said the cam belt and tensioner will cost MAX £25 inc VAT THE lot, can be done at home in about an hour. or in a well equipped garage, less.

Where in the worlds are you? as we can rec you a decent garage or someone on here that will do it in exchange for cake.:devil:

Don't just take it to the first garage that says they'll do it, most garages have a towtruck and if they are doing all the work and you are within a few miles of them they are unlikely to charge you (as most breakdowns that require a tow, get towed by AA or RAC man to the nearest ££££ robbing dealership, and the local lot are just happy to be able to get some work).

 

[teulk]

Where abouts are you, because if your near newcastle, i could put a new cambelt on for you if you buy the parts, and supply me with tea and custard creams

I'll give you hand but i want all the custard creams

 

[Belle]

ahhhhh now that makes sense then!

i phoned garage today and he recons about £250 so not so bad thats including labour and towing...guna get picked up 2moro, so ill let ya know how it goes.

thanks alot for ur help

xx

A mobile mechanic from the Yellow Pages is doing mine today for £45!

 

[Badger_Benji]

Replaced the one on my cinq in an hour, same engine, just tighter to get into, its not a massive job. Again if you are in my area, dont go paying, tea and biscuits will sort it.

 

[saucysista1]

thanks guys...

its been done, cost me £150 but 50 of that was the recovery.

thank god ive got my car back...

thanks for all the offers....im more of a hob nob girl myself and im in surrey.... but im sure i could have supplied the tea if i was closer!

thanks again for all ur help!

xxx