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seen these on ebay... are they uk legal??
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seen these on ebay... are they uk legal??
yep, the wattage is legal enough 
not sure if the amnt of blueness is within legal limit tho
not sure if the amnt of blueness is within legal limit tho
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yeah thats what i was wondering......................
I'd stick with the standard ones TBH, if you can't see with those lights then it's off to the optometrist's!
Peeps would think you were a Chav anyway!
Liam
Peeps would think you were a Chav anyway!
Liam
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nah,
ice ble car+ice blue light=wicked!!
ice ble car+ice blue light=wicked!!
I like them . As Alex says they may be too blue, depends on your police force . Some are pretty good (well they are round here) and are approachable if you go and ask for advice on something that may/ may not be allowed on your car. Personally I do find the standard lights too dull as well unless on full beam
. As Alex says they may be too blue, depends on your police force . Some are pretty good (well they are round here) and are approachable if you go and ask for advice on something that may/ may not be allowed on your car. Personally I do find the standard lights too dull as well unless on full beam
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hey all!!
Ive been checking on the internet and I cant find anything about the "tempereature" or colour output of healamp bulbs.
There MUST be something, cos I know ring manufacture some blue headlamp bulbs, but are for OFF road use only, not " street legal"
Where would you find this sort of info??
Ive been checking on the internet and I cant find anything about the "tempereature" or colour output of healamp bulbs.
There MUST be something, cos I know ring manufacture some blue headlamp bulbs, but are for OFF road use only, not " street legal"
Where would you find this sort of info??
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here swhat MOT regs say
Headlamps:
Headlamps must be a matched pair, same shape and size and emit the same intensity and colour and must be sufficient to illuminate the road ahead. Headlamps must show yellow or white in colour and must give an acceptable beam pattern on the headlamp aim test.
Dip switches must extinguish all main beam headlamps and leave on at least one pair of dip beam headlamps.
Headlamps must each be the same colour and size and must be symmetrical to one another.
Headlamps must operate immediately when switched to main or dip beam.
A main beam warning light is not part of the test.
Masks or kits to convert left hand drive to right hand drive are acceptable providing the device is secure and doesn't reduce the light output unduly.
Damage to a headlamp lens must affect the beam pattern adversely or reduce the light output well below that required to illuminate the road ahead, before it fails. Parts of a broken lens etc which might cause injury to persons walking by the vehicle could fail under body condition requirements.
Checking the headlamp aim needs special equipment but the object is to ensure the dipped light does not cause dazzle to oncoming traffic. This means the aim must be below the horizontal (e.g taken from the centre of the headlamp unit). Note that the aim will be tested with an assistant seated in the drivers seat so take this into account if you are setting them up on the garage doors!
Some headlights, e.g European 'E' beam, are tested on dip beam whereas others, e.g 7 inch round British American, are tested on main beam.
Vehicles with complex headlamps may need to be moved closer to the beamsetting equipment to provide a "readable" pattern. The Ford Mondeo is one example.
Interior adjustment devices will not be touched unless the lamp is set too low. In this case the tester will re-set the adjuster to its highest position to see if that cures the problem.
im still none the wiser tho
Headlamps:
Headlamps must be a matched pair, same shape and size and emit the same intensity and colour and must be sufficient to illuminate the road ahead. Headlamps must show yellow or white in colour and must give an acceptable beam pattern on the headlamp aim test.
Dip switches must extinguish all main beam headlamps and leave on at least one pair of dip beam headlamps.
Headlamps must each be the same colour and size and must be symmetrical to one another.
Headlamps must operate immediately when switched to main or dip beam.
A main beam warning light is not part of the test.
Masks or kits to convert left hand drive to right hand drive are acceptable providing the device is secure and doesn't reduce the light output unduly.
Damage to a headlamp lens must affect the beam pattern adversely or reduce the light output well below that required to illuminate the road ahead, before it fails. Parts of a broken lens etc which might cause injury to persons walking by the vehicle could fail under body condition requirements.
Checking the headlamp aim needs special equipment but the object is to ensure the dipped light does not cause dazzle to oncoming traffic. This means the aim must be below the horizontal (e.g taken from the centre of the headlamp unit). Note that the aim will be tested with an assistant seated in the drivers seat so take this into account if you are setting them up on the garage doors!
Some headlights, e.g European 'E' beam, are tested on dip beam whereas others, e.g 7 inch round British American, are tested on main beam.
Vehicles with complex headlamps may need to be moved closer to the beamsetting equipment to provide a "readable" pattern. The Ford Mondeo is one example.
Interior adjustment devices will not be touched unless the lamp is set too low. In this case the tester will re-set the adjuster to its highest position to see if that cures the problem.
im still none the wiser tho
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hmmm.......
just come across some very uiseful info, and , apparently NO bluish/blue bulb is legal.
yellow or white.
bummer.
no law on foggies tho!!!!!! heh heh!!!!!
just come across some very uiseful info, and , apparently NO bluish/blue bulb is legal.
yellow or white.
bummer.
no law on foggies tho!!!!!! heh heh!!!!!
I guess the thing is would this count as one of the 'natural daylight' bulbs which are true white as opposed to yellow? The coating on them doesn't turn them blue, just extinguishes the yellow.
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hmmm.......
just come across some very uiseful info, and , apparently NO bluish/blue bulb is legal.
yellow or white.
bummer.
no law on foggies tho!!!!!! heh heh!!!!!
just come across some very uiseful info, and , apparently NO bluish/blue bulb is legal.
yellow or white.
bummer.
no law on foggies tho!!!!!! heh heh!!!!!
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OP
errr.....
how did that get on there twice??????????
how did that get on there twice??????????
PhilWalker said:
How many new cars have u seen with a blue tint to the lights though?
So i guess that confuses things a bit?
Or am i bein stupid?
So i guess that confuses things a bit?
Or am i bein stupid?
That's not a blue tint you see, it's white, however, the higher intensity of blue in it makes you think it is blue ONLY relative to normal headlights.
Sorry to bring this back frm the dead but someone I know from another forum has ben looking into this. Posted by HondaPower from CWC:
Something I found while looking into Euoropean law:
European law states that you can legally use blue-tint 'xenon' type bulbs (hence they are sold in UK and are CE marked) but UK law states that headlight colour must be white and below a certain brightness. (Normal bulbs are 60w)
The police tend to go by UK law, rather than European so will not hesitate in pulling you for it. A court will find in your favour as European law overrides existing member states laws.
The best thing to do is carry the CE marked bulb packet around with you and either plead ignorance or politely explain all about European law to the police officer who pulls you!
Something I found while looking into Euoropean law:
European law states that you can legally use blue-tint 'xenon' type bulbs (hence they are sold in UK and are CE marked) but UK law states that headlight colour must be white and below a certain brightness. (Normal bulbs are 60w)
The police tend to go by UK law, rather than European so will not hesitate in pulling you for it. A court will find in your favour as European law overrides existing member states laws.
The best thing to do is carry the CE marked bulb packet around with you and either plead ignorance or politely explain all about European law to the police officer who pulls you!
im currently running 80/100w sportz blue bulbs, and havnt had a problem so far although to be fair i have the alignment down slightly (as my adjusters are broken i can either have light up trees or slightly down from normal) have driven past no end of cops and not been pulled over (ironically ditto for the undercars?)
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pghstochaj said:
Hmm Punto mk2 lights are bluer than Jenna Jameson!
I've had those exact bulbs in my car for months, I've never had a problem. Got through the MOT fine. The bulbs arent blue at all, the blue tint on the glass makes them a lot whiter than normal bulbs.
I've not upgraded to 8500K bulbs, which have an even bluer tint to them, but again, they are still white, so there should be no problem in using them. They are the standard wattage too so that's fine also.
I've not upgraded to 8500K bulbs, which have an even bluer tint to them, but again, they are still white, so there should be no problem in using them. They are the standard wattage too so that's fine also.
I have these on my car and have had them checked at my local garage, they are a PASS on MOT. to add they are ultra bright White and they are amazing, really as close as HID, the only problem is I brought 2 sets, it has a life time warrenty which mmmmm .. one of my bulbs blew and i have spent the last 2 months trying to contact the supplier whos in the US and takes ages to reply if he ever does.. but back to the bulbs.. the best white Bulbs on the market I was say.. wont ever go back to standard bulbs now....
