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General SEAT Terra van

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General SEAT Terra van

Is that 2 pack you are using? What temperature is it is the paint ok in the cold and humidity?
I would like to get a mask and respirator etc for 2 pack. I have only ever sprayed cellulose and it always goes wrong, and wrong in a different way each time.
 
Cellulose is pretty old hat these days. 2 pack goes off as a chemical reaction because you add a hardener/accelerater to it.
It coats thicker. fills pin holes etc etc.
And it provides a much harder and durable final finish.
It doesn't seem to 'Bloom' in colder temps either.

Use 'Acrylic' only, as the stuff the trade used is highly toxic. (Iso' something)
Remember you can wear as many resperators as you like but it is very bad form poisoning your neighbours. (Hard to explain away when they die with paint colour around their nostrils)(y)
 
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Use 'Acrylic' only, as the stuff the trade used is highly toxic. (Iso' something)
Remember you can wear as many resperators as you like but it is very bad form poisoning your neighbours. (Hard to explain away when they die with paint colour around their nostrils)(y)
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If you were cunning you could use nostril coloured paint ;)
 
No pics yet. Probably tomorrow.

Did anyone notice that it was freezing cold and blowing a hooly today.?

I've been have a few issues rebuilding the van. Nothing insurmountable but irritating none-the-less.

I'm fitting Fiat MK1 doors as the originals required repair, stripping down etc etc. I mentioned before that SEAT weld the top hinge on the door. That wasn't a problem. I have an unwilling donor.!
Early in 1980's, the association of Fiat and SEAT found everything to be hunky dorey. As years passed and tempers frayed SEAT began making more and more parts themselves, presumably to avoid design/copywright infringement. I mention this as with my '84 SEAT, everything swops straight over. The van however is '94.
I fitted the front door with both Fiat hinges......... They just wouldn'y sit right. So I took them off...... Looked..... Put them back on.... They wouldn't align.
1994 SEAT bottom hinges are different from Fiat ones

So I reasoned that even though I hadn't painted them the SEAT ones would have to go on.
Fortunatly the bolt pattern was identical but the door wouldn't shut. So I took them off...... Looked..... Put them back on.... They wouldn't shut.

This went on for some time. I checked everywhere to find what was touching/jamming/blocking. Nothing.

So what was it....?



SEAT bottom hinge bolts are 5mm shorter than Fiat ones so the hinge was fouling on the excess thread.
Only took about two hours and a hailstorm to sort that out.
The doors were on and off so many times and although the paint was dry it isn't very hard yet (because of the cold) so they suffered a few marks chips and............... Oh yeah nearly forgot...... A lot of swearing.:cry:

Fortunately changing the glass and locks over was relatively straight forward though I I did manage to break a door handle/lock.
I wouldn't have thought it possible. Again I assume it was due to the cold weather but the ball and socket joint on the donor lock sheared off (on the lock) when I tried to seperate it from the donor door.
Bang goes my idea of having just one key for everything then...?


And my final winge for tonight.
How is it that all the bolts, bit and pieces that I removed on Monday and put together in a box; have now decided to play hide and seek..?
How does that happen..................:mad:
 
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Alixcompo said:
Fortunately changing the glass and locks over was relatively straight forward though I I did manage to break a door handle/lock.
I wouldn't have thought it possible. Again I assume it was due to the cold weather but the ball and socket joint on the donor lock sheared off (on the lock) when I tried to seperate it from the donor door.
Bang goes my idea of having just one key for everything then...?
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Take the barrel out of a lock that doesn't match. Stick the key you want to use in the barrell and file the protruding pins. You will almost certainly be left with a few pins that lock. OK it's a little less secure but Pandas are so easy to break in to, the last thing a crook would do would be pick a lock.
 
It has been a long week but I've been using the van this afternoon and nothing has fallen off yet.

The rear bumper is painted and I'm just waiting for it to fully harden before I refit it.

The roof bars are sprayed and refitted and the doors have the long (3 bolt) interior door handle/opener.
Haven't fitted door cards or bins yet as I can't make up my mind whether to use small early Pands ones or full depth later versions. Generally I prefer things to be as basic as possible and I prefer metal to plastic.
Although I have refitted the big plastic luggage thing that goes on the cab roof.

THE MIRRORS. Oh yeah 'the mirrors'. I really liked the huge VW 'Transporter' jobbies I'd been using but dut to the difference in mounting angles twixt Vdub and Fiat I had to make some hideous brackets which I'm not keen to use again.

I will be experimenting with other items but as a stopgap I raveged the 'ignored green one' for the MK1 variants.

It is well known that these de-adjust every time you shut the door.
I get the double benefit as the key for the doner drivers door lock I fitted is 12 miles aways with the donor vehicle.
Therefore to secure the van I have to lean in through the passenger door the lock the grivers doors. Opening being the reverse proceedure means that everytime I stop both mirrors are like a pair of chamelon's eyes.
I don't know how long I can stand it:(
 
If you have never come across 'Rivnuts' then you are missing out.

My NOS MK1 doors came without mirror mounts so I had to drill new holes.
Rivnuts fit the same way as pop rivits yet insert a thread and all from one side.
Then you can bolt/screw and get a good solid fix.



Just be careful not to 'over squeze) the pliers and rip the threads out of the insert(y)
 
Coo; very nearly broke down. Driving home all the lights, heater, wiper and radio on..... I started to think that the bloke in front must have a puncture cos I could smell 'rubbery'.

And then the ignition light came on...!

Oops alternator belt gone. Rather than stop or anything rash I considered the facts;

It's a diesel (uses no electric to run), the water pump is driven off the cambelt and it was very cold and damp outside. So I drove home, occasionally turning the headlights off when I was in well lit areas. (which we have a lot of down south. Street lights and everyfink)

Although my motor factors didn't actually have one in stock, they got one for next morning at the grand cost of £4.58... Rah

Before I get too smug I had better think acout changing the cambelt, idler and water pump methinks....:eek:
 
Right; aside from working on the Green Neglected one, I also been working on this Green One.

I've been collecting a few Ebay bits. All comes to those who are patient. I got two rear wheel cylinders for about £12. And a handbrake cable for about £8 or something daft, it might have been less.



I had already fitted a pair of new 'Panda' cylinders but as you can seat the SEAT Terra items have a bigger bore and larger faces. And they were designed for the job of course.
I had some brand new rear shoes in stock so the brakes had something of a birthday.
It isn't worth poncing about with old handbrake cables these days when new ones are so cheap. This old one was sticking badly. Now it's beautiful.



My current favorite find was a brand new old stock rear light lens. It was quite expensive but I really never thought I'd find one so easily; and it was the side I really needed.



I think that I have mentioned before that these items mount quite differently to the car variants with two pins coming straight out of the back of the unit.

I also took the opportunity to refit the repainted rear bumper before I managed to knock it down from where it has been hanging for a month.


.

So new light, repaired and painted bumper, new hanbrake cable, wheel cyls and shoes. Haven't I been a good boy.

Need to change the servo and master cylinder next. Ho hum(y)
 
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