Technical punto mk2 starter motor fit mk1

[flisko]

i wonder will a punto mk2 starter motor fit mk1

 

[fingers99]

Never tried it, but it should (as should an 1108 Cinq or Sei Sporting one). They pretty much share the same flywheel throughout the FIRE engines.

 

[flisko]

Never tried it, but it should (as should an 1108 Cinq or Sei Sporting one). They pretty much share the same flywheel throughout the FIRE engines.

thats what i though, as guys on ebay would claim they fit puntos from 94-04

if i plug it to a computer will it show a fault on starter motor?

car struggles or take longer cranking when starting from dead cold, it always starts from second try, changed ht leads, alternator brushes, coil packs, battery like 2 years ago-was same with the previous battery, only thing i didnt change are spark plugs-after every spark plug change it would be same as described above and starter motor, not rly something that bothers me, i just wonder what is causing this

 

[fingers99]

Unless the starter seems -- almost magically -- to pick up speed on the second turn of the key, my guess is that it's compression related. Dry and wet compression tests might show something, but even if they do, fixing will involve tearing down the engine.

If the starter does speed up, it's likely to be a poor connection with either one of the main earths (battery -ive to wing, top of gearbox to wing) or starter cables.

No code reader will show starter motor faults.

 

[flisko]

i misspoke, it always has the same speed when crancking it just doesnt want to start that fast so i let go off the key and try again then it starts instantly

 

[fingers99]

Compression or, just maybe, needs a new fuel filter (it's supposed to be a service item, but few folk bother).

 

[Liquid Knight]

I use a MkII starter on my Panda Fantasia and FrankenFiat engine (Punto 60 block, 75 cam' and bike carb's) with the older blocks only two of the bolts line up but it engages and works perfectly.

 

[blu73]

starter from any FIRE engine will do assuming that your punto isn't a 90 (1.6 sporting) or a GT, I can't remember what exact model you have. I have a mk2 punto 16v starter on my seicento 1.1 8v for example.

 

[s and b]

i would count the teeth on the bendix before i substituted a mk2 starter or it could jam or chew the ring gear up

 

[flisko]

i would count the teeth on the bendix before i substituted a mk2 starter or it could jam or chew the ring gear up

good idea of teeth count, got a 55 1.1

is there any way to test the starter before putting it in

 

[s and b]

good idea of teeth count, got a 55 1.1

is there any way to test the starter before putting it in

yes mate
put it in a vice or get a strong mate to put his boot on it and once its running see if you can stop it by feeding it a long piece of 3x2

 

[flisko]

if i plug it to a battery will it spin?

 

[fingers99]

It should. Lots of vids on You Tube.

But I don't think the starter motor is the issue here.

 

[flisko]

It should. Lots of vids on You Tube.

But I don't think the starter motor is the issue here.

mhm

 

[Bartpanda]

good idea of teeth count,

because newer starters have 8 not 9 teeth:bang:

 

[fingers99]

because newer starters have 8 not 9 teeth:bang:

But how newer? Folk have been using Stilo (etc) 16v flywheels on Centos for a while, without problems.

Bet the penny pinchers decided 8 teeth would be cheaper to machine!

 

[Bartpanda]

Cant give you exact answer, punto 2 with denso starter has 8 not 9 teeth like older ones, there are also hitachi starters in some grande puntos, 500's, bravo t-jets etc with 10 teeth{3rd gen. fire engines}, In the 1st gen of fire engine, till 1999 most of the starters were bosch or marelli, and little amount of ducelier, all 9 teeth, after 99 the variety rises :bang:

 

[flisko]

magneti marelli