Pet hates on the road

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Pet hates on the road

Talking on a mobile phone when driving (only when they can't drive to start with)

Not indicating (esp when pulling over)

Lane hogging (A1 has a constant flow of idiots who dont know when to pull over) Only the other night it was empty, someone sat in outside lane.......almost didn't move over for me......and when I went past they pulled back over into the outside lane :bang:
 
if you are on the bus you wouldnt see any of this therefore you wouldnt get annoyed :)

Actually, it is the passengers on the bus that I feel sorry for the most. When the bus drivers pull out without indicating while another vehicle is there - they have no option but to stop very sharply, or hit the thing that happens to be there.

I used to get 4 buses a day to go to school (2 there/2 back) and the number of times this would happen. And you knew the driver wasn't indicating as the buses round this way have a beeping noise when the indicator is on. Or at least they did when I was using them a few years back!

One driver had to stop so sharply because of his stupidity, the little old lady he'd just let on fell over and injured her arm.

If that's not seeing it, or indeed in this case - feeling it - I don't know what is.
 
The way i see it is this -

Bad habits are everywhere nothing you can do about it people

Just hand your liscences back and get the bus if it irks you that much



Errrr NO.
I worked hard & earned every part of my liscence [sic], it's the morons with incredibly stupid habits that should have their licences taken off them until they have retaken their test & proven to the authorities that they are now competent drivers.
 
Actually, it is the passengers on the bus that I feel sorry for the most. When the bus drivers pull out without indicating while another vehicle is there - they have no option but to stop very sharply, or hit the thing that happens to be there.

I used to get 4 buses a day to go to school (2 there/2 back) and the number of times this would happen. And you knew the driver wasn't indicating as the buses round this way have a beeping noise when the indicator is on. Or at least they did when I was using them a few years back!

One driver had to stop so sharply because of his stupidity, the little old lady he'd just let on fell over and injured her arm.

If that's not seeing it, or indeed in this case - feeling it - I don't know what is.

You could always take his number & report him.
 
What is your pet hate when out and about in your car? Is it what ither drivers do? What passengers do? Anything to do with the road?

I have a number :D

  • Talking on a mobile phone when driving
  • Not indicating
  • Tailgating
  • Lane hogging
  • Bad traffic light phasing
  • Etc :p
Anyone else care to add?

I have a few, but most are no different to anyone else's list, so i'll only write this one:

1, Someone turning right sits in the middle of the road while waiting instead of moving over slightly before coming to a halt thus allowing traffic to pass on the left. Simple isn't it.

EDIT: Bad traffic light phasing - i like that one!! We can put man on the moon, watch music on our phones in full colour, but we're unable to make traffic lights that dont sit there letting Mr Nobody out while the traffic builds up from the other directions!

Tom
 
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You could always take his number & report him.

Come on - when you are 15, do you honestly think "I must get that bus's running number"? However, when I worked for a bus company, I can't even tell you how many I took down just to grass them up... :devil:
 
Come on - when you are 15, do you honestly think "I must get that bus's running number"? However, when I worked for a bus company, I can't even tell you how many I took down just to grass them up... :devil:

Worst thing you can do when driving a signwritten vehicle is drive like a moron AFAIC.
That signwriting is my invitation to whinge.
Even better if I can put footage onto youtube & send them a link:devil:
 
Worst thing you can do when driving a signwritten vehicle is drive like a moron AFAIC.
That signwriting is my invitation to whinge.
Even better if I can put footage onto youtube & send them a link:devil:

my friend has signwriting of his business all over his car so he gets really annoyed if we start waving to people or do something to attract unneccessary attention :ROFLMAO: he said he's had two complaints on the phone so far, but not because of us, just his driving :ROFLMAO:
 
I've suggested our local force sends the plastic plods out with digital cameras and a few instant fine pads.
Take a pic of the car & hand the driver an instant £30 fine, number of cars I see, that's got to be one huge moneyspinner.

Never know, might also catch a few tax & insurance dodgers as well.
By Plastic Plods, I presume you mean PCSOs. In GMPland there are PCSOs and Traffic PCSOs. It is not within the remit of PCSOs to issue any motoring related tickets. The Traffic variety however, can. They can issue Non-Endorsables for Unnecessary Obstruction and Endorsable FPNs for certain offences such as stopping on zig-zag lines at Pedestrian Crossings and parking on Double White Lines. Unfortunately they can't deal with Moving Traffic Offences or offences under VLR (Vehicle Lighting Regulations) which having blue lights or inoperative lights would come under. They can also use mobile speed cameras although they have to deal with speeding via Summons as they can't issue (E)FPNs for that.

It's been argued for several years that they should be able to deal with Bus Lane offences as well, but resistance to this (and others) has come from within the relevant Traffic Departments. Basically they don't want their domains encroached upon. The Motorway Sections argued against the introduction of HA Traffic Officers as well. The thinking behind the intoduction of those people was to free up the Cops from having to babysit people on the hard shoulder, run rolling road blocks and help get stranded cars off the Motorway.

Under the legal description of the role of Police Traffic Wardens (as was) there was a codicil at the end which read: ".....plus any other role the Chief Constable sees fit." PCSOs were funded by the Home Office directly and could only do what the Government said they could do. In our area, at least, the TPCSOs are funded by the Force and therefore could do more traffic related duties. Traffic in BMW X5s, Subarus, Mitsubishis, Volvo V7s and Range Rovers have a very high, dare I say glamorous profile. Can anyone honestly see them giving that up for pub fights and domestics?

The problem the plastic police have is that they aren't allowed to issue fines/ticket etc. Whenever someone is caught breaking the law, it is the real police that issue the ticket.

So riding bikes on pavements, dog fouling, anti-social behaviour, bad driving, drug dealers, etc, etc - all need the real police to deal with them.

In my opinion, their role is pretty pointless in that they can do what the rest of us do should they see something dodgy going on - call the police! After all, many of these people are only PCSOs because the real force wouldn't have them. They'd be better utilised as secretaries completing the paperwork the actual police officers have to to allow some policing.
There are ex-forces personnel who've fought in Northern Ireland, The Falklnds, Iraq and Afghanistan who are PCSOs because the Police wouldn't have them. Why? Because they aren't touchy-feely enough.

PCSOs were introduced to deal with the so-called minor offences of public nuisance. It was thought that despatching a Police Officer to deal with kids kicking a football around was a waste of resources; there's a good argument in that. They can issue PNDs or Penalty Notice for Disorder for a wide variety of things such as littering, dog fouling and Public Order offences.

They are also used to tidy-up, so to speak. If there is a Perimeter round a crime scene for example, you'll quite often see PCSOs on the cordon. Follow ups to burglary or robbery victims are quite often done by them as well as they can get Social Services involved where an elderly person needs help or a child is at risk. They can give crime prevention advice and have the time to do what a lot of the oldies want; which is to have a cup of tea and empathise. You'd be surprised how much info is gathered over a cuppa.

In one of our Divisions, just over 50% of targetted arrests were carried out because of intelligence put on the system by PCSOs. Where I live we've had an increase in the number of alley-gating schemes because of the activities of PCSOs, something the Cops never had time for.

As I said above, what PCSOs can and can't do is laid down by the Home Office. What TPCSOs can and can't do is decided by the local Force. If you have a good Neighbourhood Inspector he will deploy his staff well and effectively and make sure his PCSOs are active and make sure they get the right level of support from the Cops, otherwise they are on their own and that will affect their confidence.

Look at the comparison in an aggressive situation.

Cop : Baton, CS Spray, Handcuffs and (possibly) Taser.
PCSO : Sense of humour, PND book and pen.

I can guarantee that somewhere in your area is a PCSO who's been injured fighting with some shoplifter/drug addict/drunk/vandal (delete as applicable). Would you take on one of these people on your own? No, didn't think so.
 
I work with a lot of Safer Neighbourhood Teams and when they have their public meetings, one of the most common complaints is speeding motorists. When asked whether PCSOs can issue penalty notices after using a speed gun - the meetings are always told a categorical "no". The reason being they do not have it in their powers to do so - only normal fully empowered police officers can. Or at least that is what they say.

I am fully aware of the diverse roles that PCSOs fill and it seems as though you were taking my comments about "many" of them being candidates that were rejected by the recruitment process as being "all". This was not the case, but purely founded on the fact that one of the other common complaints received was that some of the PCSOs can appear quite rude and boisterous towards people and sometimes even threaten people with arrest, when it may not be warranted or is indeed not in their power.

I am still not sure why you require a not badly paid PCSO to enter someone's house and tell them to upgrade theirs locks. It seems unnecessary as each SNT is headed up by a Sergeant (in this area anyway although I know some SNTs are even headed by Inspectors). Bit of overkill for a piece of friendly advice!

I agree that there's room for something in the community, in a similar role as PCSOs fill on their own, but I do think that it has been done in completely the wrong fashion.
 
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By Plastic Plods, I presume you mean PCSOs. In GMPland there are PCSOs and Traffic PCSOs. It is not within the remit of PCSOs to issue any motoring related tickets.

etc

I can guarantee that somewhere in your area is a PCSO who's been injured fighting with some shoplifter/drug addict/drunk/vandal (delete as applicable). Would you take on one of these people on your own? No, didn't think so.


I can appreciate the normal police are overwhelmed with work, typical Government penpushing scenario, nick a nobed & spend the rest of the shift writing it up.

I often hear lots of negative comments about PCSOs - is it any wonder when they have hardly any real powers?

Perhaps the thing to do is set up lots of small, specialised training courses - in much the same way as you have to do the driving course - with a small financial incentive for passing.
This way, you will have some who may be happy to wander round doing what they do at present, but you will also have some who have specialised in operating the radar gun, using pepper spray, maybe even driving ? ).
Thing is, while the general public are allowed to continually push the boundaries, they will and eventually there will be chaos.
We have clear guidelines which enable all of us to operate within society, as more people break the guidelines & get away with it, others will resent this - it's got to be a big factor in the many episodes of road rage.

As for dealing with public nuisance, we have had, locally, a woman and her disabled son living in fear through constant taunts, bullying & vandalism. Seemingly, when she has called the police, she is told it is not a matter for them to deal with, she needs to talk to the council.
 
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that moron on the A10 in enfield who keeps letting his miniature pony out onto the dual carriageway:bang:

WTF? Where?

My pet hate. People who sit in the right hand lane doing 35mph because they want to do a right at the lights 3 miles down the road.
 
when you come off the m25, and head south to the cineworld cinema, it's the dual carriageway stretch close to the apple garage on the left, happened twice!!

Haha, I drive along there every morning, had never seen that. Funny though. Wonder who owns the horse.
 
I have another hate thing :D

Morons who decide they want to race you away from lights, then get all arsey when you win! What's the point of putting your high beam on and sitting inches from someone's rear bumper just because they happen to have a faster car than you? My opinion on them being tw@ts - buy a faster car, understand that you are a kn0b and stop being a sore loser (y) :p
 
I have loads on the road to many to list but one a bit more closer to home would be... The missus changing the bloody radio station because she doesnt like my taste in music. uhh shivers just thinking about it! :p

Learn to drive if you want your own crappy tunes on! :D then you can pick me up from the pub on match days aswell instead of having to find alternative ways of getting home. ;) :rolleyes: DOUBLE WINNER!
 
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