New USAmps online UK site and store

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justus3

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Have teamed up with Adam (Dub.. aka Bora Bora fm MKCruise) and created an online shop for USAmps.

Contract signed on 3/1/2004 giving www.teamusamps.info permission to sell a range of Amps online (major american sub manufacturer also comming soon)

www.teamusamps.info

Main site is now live and more demo pages will be added.

We will only be selling the I/S and some Merlin range of amps for now, and some subs will be added in the future

Once the shop is live we will be offering any members free shipping and also a 10% discount (discount applies to IS Range only) anything that they buy in the month we go live.

For more technical info on the Amps email Adam on [email protected]

Some pictures from USAmps

USAmps Mini Cooper S Install

.jpg]AX600 and TUAX600

200UHC

2 Halves of a Double D

TU300 and Double D With new heatsink

Old Model 2000X vs New Model Range AX2000
 
whats the biggest subwoofer you do?

i want like a 30inchers, a mate has a land rover, we call it ''project spl''
 
they look pretty but if you want a flat bettery after a while of running them them fine. they drain so much power its stupid.
 
beastyjay

May i first of all say a) i dont know you and b) you dont know me and c) you obviously are not very genned up regarding USAmps product name and popularity in the US so please don't slate a product until you are actually clued up on it :D

I discussed this post with Spudgun last night (msn) and he was quite happy regarding it and the future prospect of us paying for advertising space on this forum (which I believe helps keep it going) once we start seeing the Amps arrive here on Brittish soil in February and we start seeing the money come in from the pre-orders that we have.

These Amps are made for the higher end of the SPL market, so they are not for the average 'lets go up town and drive around.. yay.... every evening' boy racer, they are for people who want to seriously enhance and show off their cars and installs.

Mark
 
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beastyjay said:
they look pretty but if you want a flat bettery after a while of running them them fine. they drain so much power its stupid.
...then don't sit in a car park with your engine off running a loud system. Buy a stereo, sit at home in the warm with beer, friends, food, films, X-box, porn etc - whatever your choice may be. If you fit an amp that your car can't handle, it's not the amp's fault - is it now.

Behave thyself.
 
its just what i`ve heard, the person may be completely wrong about us amps but i believe him because he has a good knowledge of car audio products and knows what he`s talking about.
 
Surely if an amp is Xwatts it will use up Xwatts, so if you had a 500w amp and a 500w US Amp, both will use up the same power and make a battery discharge at the same rate....

you can't compare a 500w US amp and a 100w Sony Amp and say one will discharge a battery quicker...no ****!

The only thing that would effect it is efficiency but it's hardly much of an issue in this case.
 
Thankyou pghstochaj, for the above post.

and may I also remind beastyjay on what I said earlier and what he also said

Beastyjay.... its just what i`ve heard, the person may be completely wrong about us amps but i believe him because he has a good knowledge of car audio products and knows what he`s talking about.

justus3... c) you obviously are not very genned up

Beastyjay, there are a couple of MKCruise members cars going to be kitted out with USAmps by the end of March. Can I ask you to reserve your judgement until you have heard in person just what these amps are like?

Thankyou
 
Yeah...I like Paul's logic there.

The amp cant just make the line level more powerful out of nothing...It has to come from somewhere...namely the battery!

But admittedly...a well designed amp will use up less battery power than a poorly designed one, or a cheaply built one (losses in components and suchlike)
 
Yep, Tom, hence my efficiency comment, however, I can't imagine there being more than 1-2% difference in a well designed vs. badly designed amp. I obviously don't know this to be the case but the fact is the majority of the power used by an amp is not used itself but by the speaker output right?
 
justus3 said:
Thankyou pghstochaj, for the above post.

and may I also remind beastyjay on what I said earlier and what he also said

Beastyjay, there are a couple of MKCruise members cars going to be kitted out with USAmps by the end of March. Can I ask you to reserve your judgement until you have heard in person just what these amps are like?

Thankyou

who are they then??

i will have to do that then. im just going by what someone told me and spud.
 
Thats ok beastyjay! dont want things getting silly, promise, once we got an install sorted out in MK area, we will arrange to meet up, Dub (aka Bora Bora on MKC) who is my business partner in this venture will be having an install in his Bora, and you are more than welcome to check it out once its done.

Some links for you to look at..

http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/archive/index.php/t-47348.html
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/4554.html
http://forums.audiworld.com/audio/msgs/16214.phtml

Mark
 
Thats ok mate.. i took it all the wrong way (blame Bizzeh! u no what im on about!).

Anyway, my appologies and will keep you informed of any changes etc

Mark
 
thats ok, i should of found out what they are like myself instead of listening to other people. cheers mate
 
Hi.

My name is Dave and i am the UK Distributor for US Amps. I would like to just allay a couple of fears and dispel a couple of myths about the products.

Beasty Jay does to some extent make a very valid point about amplifier effeciency and one that we should discuss, as it affects ALL amplifiers.

Hoffmans iron law says that Power(Watts) = Voltage(V) x Current(I). It also states that Voltage (V)/ Current (I)= Impedance (R)

Now this may seem very pointless and not at all relavent - but bear with me for a moment. Consider the fact that Voltage is over 5 times more effecient to produce than Current. This is why the national grid produces power at 11,000 volts or more. Effeciency.

OK - so what the hell does this have to do with car audio - well quite a lot as it goes.

At 4 ohms if your amp produces 50 volts and 12.5 amps you get 625 watts.
At 2 ohms if your amp produces 25 volts and 25 amps you get 625 watts.
At 1 ohms if your amp produces 12.5 volts and 50 amps you get 625 watts.

As impedance drops effeciecy also drops. At 4 ohms and a class a/b amp expect 65% effeciency, 50% at 2 ohms and 40% 1 ohm.

This means the amplifier turns that percentage of battery DC into Speaker AC. So looking at the 2 ohm load - the amplifier needs 1250 watts input from the power source. Using the iron law above 1250 watts @ 11.5 volts (cars float at 14 volts but as load is increased voltage drops considerably - i.e. when the bass hits.) equals 110 amperes current. Which is more than the alternator provides so therefore it is pulling it from the battery.

Now that is a relatively small amplifier - so the next thing to look at to determine if your amplifier meets its specifications is the fuse rating.......

Anyway the thing is that the reason US Amps has a bad rep for being a power hog is because they have consistently made the most powerful amps in the world. They made a "2400 watt" amp that made 4000 w back in 1996. Now in 1996 you couldnt get 2000 watt subs like you can today (remember RMS not music or "peak" kiddies) so you had to use lots of 300 watt subs. 12 for example would be the right amount in this application. 12 8 ohm subs results in a 0.66 ohm load.

At 0.66 ohms expect an amplifier to be about 35% effecient - so 4000 x 3 = 12000 watts - at 12 volts = 1000 amps. Hence you need power supply. GOOD power supply - 2 optimas say and a big alternator.

Class D changes the rules but that is for a different day.

The next point i would like to move onto is the quality of the product. Our "AX" line which is going to be hitting shops imminently is the only amplifier still 100% made in the USA. I dont care what your PG or RF says on it - it is a korean amplfier that is assembled in the USA. Open it up.

Below there are a few images of our new product though - the Double D. This amplifier produces 7200 W RMS into a 0.5 ohm load (it is class D so effeciency is different to the above). It has 8 x 8AWG power wires direct to the board, 8 x 8AWG ground wires direct to the board and 4 x 8AWG speaker wires direct to the board. Next to it is a DE3000 - which is half a Double D, so you can see the board (all AX amps have perspex bottoms so you can see where the money goes)...... check the warning on the amp ;)


Pic1

Pic2

Pic3

Pic4

Pic5

IS is an offshore product however it is producing over 20% more than its CES2006 spec RMS rating - and doing it all day long. And its cheap.......


A few more nuggets. Power caps are bad and lower the output of the system. Fact. If you want to stop lights dimming then 2 x 0.25 caps in series with the + on your lights works better ;)

Gel batteries are the way forward.

6*9's and subs reduces your amount of bass.

Ported boxes can give better SQ than sealed if correctly designed.

Speakers should be round not square.

I could go on.....hehehe


Have fun guys.


EDITED TO LINK PICCIES ;)

ALSO feel free to ask ANY ICE question - i am here to help :)

P.S. - my fave small car of all time is a Strada 130TC Abarth - can i be in your gang? ;)
 
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