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Here she is with her new exhaust
General Light at the end of the tunnel
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Also now got the punto rear wiper arm on.
oh now that's interesting. If only I had a bigger drive
noticed the 'I have lots of parts' bit at the bottom too. GTie interior...hmmm.
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Ooohh Errrrrrrr Its looking slick under there. Would it be impolite to ask for figures on how much it cost? Is it bespoke?
I may be missing a few specifics but the idea is you mount the turbo in the exhaust system around where the rear exhasut hanger is on Y10 or Panda. You run the oil lines to the back and create ducting to carry the charge pressure forward to the carb/injection. Lag is avoided by using the backpressure of the standard fit peashooter exhaust. A bit like a hose where if you turn the water on and there is already water in , it comes out immeadiately. The bonus is the exhaust works like a primitive intercooler cooling the gases before they reach the turbo and giving the turbo a low stress enviro to work in. Also avoids complicated things like sodium filled valves and adapting manifolds the accept the turbo. In the mag it had been done on a 205 GTi
I may be missing a few specifics but the idea is you mount the turbo in the exhaust system around where the rear exhasut hanger is on Y10 or Panda. You run the oil lines to the back and create ducting to carry the charge pressure forward to the carb/injection. Lag is avoided by using the backpressure of the standard fit peashooter exhaust. A bit like a hose where if you turn the water on and there is already water in , it comes out immeadiately. The bonus is the exhaust works like a primitive intercooler cooling the gases before they reach the turbo and giving the turbo a low stress enviro to work in. Also avoids complicated things like sodium filled valves and adapting manifolds the accept the turbo. In the mag it had been done on a 205 GTi
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Very interesting. Thanks
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When I dropped the car off this morning I gave C+C Custom Stainless Exhausts a standard Punto 75 down pipe which has a lambda boss and is a slightly bigger bore than the standard 999cc down pipe and a Y10 Turbo back box which has 2" pipe.
What they then did was make up a bespoke stainless 2" centre section to link it all together with a 4" straight silencer to make it less raspy.
All finished by 2.30 for £170 + vat
Certainly feels like the engine is breathing better and sounds great.
All the garages I have used for finishing the Y10 have been recommended by word of mouth and have not been disappointed yet.
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oh now that's interesting. If only I had a bigger drive
Still no bids at 5 days. Maybe a longer drive is needed.
It looks very impressive, so it has now got two back boxes? and are those bolts through the floor bespoke seat moutings
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Yep two boxes. I think the standard Y10 turbo system has a silencer in the mid section so it was no wonder that it was a bit raspy will just having the back box.
Eagle eyes spotting the seat mounts
The drivers side is mounted slightly further back to give my legs more room. The wife doesn't need that much space Cheers
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What an arse of a day I have had.
All started out ok with a nice long run in the Y10 then the exhaust started to blow a bit. Thought it was the normal gasket between the manifold and the downpipe but when I checked I couldn't find any sign of a blow.
So carried on my journey to via a Fiat dealer in Perth to get a price for a coolant temperature sensor to try and cure the engine running rich. £64 is what they want for that tiny little sensor!!!
Any how I asked him politely to keep the sensor and I went on my way.
20 minutes later the exhaust got considerably louder as one of the welded joins in the new stainless exhaust failed and the system split in two!!!
With the Y10 sounding like a tractor I pulled into a petrol station and called the AA who arrived in 20 minutes and did a quick repair to get the pipes temporarily joined. Still loud a hell but I drove it the 70 miles back to Glasgow.
The system clearly needs a flexi to reduce the strain. Hopefully get this done on Thursday or early next week.
Cheers
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All started out ok with a nice long run in the Y10 then the exhaust started to blow a bit. Thought it was the normal gasket between the manifold and the downpipe but when I checked I couldn't find any sign of a blow.
So carried on my journey to via a Fiat dealer in Perth to get a price for a coolant temperature sensor to try and cure the engine running rich. £64 is what they want for that tiny little sensor!!!
Any how I asked him politely to keep the sensor and I went on my way.
20 minutes later the exhaust got considerably louder as one of the welded joins in the new stainless exhaust failed and the system split in two!!!
With the Y10 sounding like a tractor I pulled into a petrol station and called the AA who arrived in 20 minutes and did a quick repair to get the pipes temporarily joined. Still loud a hell but I drove it the 70 miles back to Glasgow.
The system clearly needs a flexi to reduce the strain. Hopefully get this done on Thursday or early next week.
Cheers
Dave
You should be able to get a sensor from a motorfactors for about a tenner
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You should be able to get a sensor from a motorfactors for about a tenner
Will phone around.
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A pic of the Y10 getting a bit of attention from the AA.
All fixed now with some heavier welding (MIG rather than TIG) hopefully will hold out.
Got a coolant temperature sensor from Eurocarparts for £16 rather than the £64 Fiat wanted. All fitted now and will give it a run tomorrow to see if it helps.
Should also have a photo shoot over the next couple of weeks for the Y10's magazine appearance.
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Its seems like you may have got the wrong sensor there, I think you will need one exactly the same as your old one, with the tapered end.
Your new one seems to be the type used on the early Bosch SPI like in my Panda, which as far as I know must have a different resistance range. I fitted the later type and it caused all sorts of problems, even after I fitted the correct type.
Your new one seems to be the type used on the early Bosch SPI like in my Panda, which as far as I know must have a different resistance range. I fitted the later type and it caused all sorts of problems, even after I fitted the correct type.
Just read the whole story start to finish Was a very good read!
You've done a superb job on the Y10. They must be the rarest and most seldom cherished Lancia's made. I'd love to see the reaction they get at a Lancia meet.
On page 2ish you spoke about a gold Y10 with the owners name of Trevor. Is this by any chance Trevor Niscosa who breaks Y10's in Scotland? He hooked me up with my ARB and radius arms, top chap
Keep up the good work though, someday I'll have to see your Y10
Cheers,
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Indeed he is right about the coolant temp sensor! I did the same thing - fitted it and it didn't work. Although I suspect somebody had swapped the new sensor for the old one and taken it back to the shop - so I was double screwed!
Was a very good read! You've done a superb job on the Y10. They must be the rarest and most seldom cherished Lancia's made. I'd love to see the reaction they get at a Lancia meet.
On page 2ish you spoke about a gold Y10 with the owners name of Trevor. Is this by any chance Trevor Niscosa who breaks Y10's in Scotland? He hooked me up with my ARB and radius arms, top chap
Keep up the good work though, someday I'll have to see your Y10
Cheers,
Alex
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Indeed he is right about the coolant temp sensor! I did the same thing - fitted it and it didn't work. Although I suspect somebody had swapped the new sensor for the old one and taken it back to the shop - so I was double screwed!
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Bugger.
Eurocarparts have this sensor listed for both 60 and 75 puntos. Must be ealier 75 engines. The one I have is a 1997.
I will take the old sensor with me back to them to make sure I get the right one.
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Just read the whole story start to finish
You've done a superb job on the Y10. They must be the rarest and most seldom cherished Lancia's made. I'd love to see the reaction they get at a Lancia meet.
On page 2ish you spoke about a gold Y10 with the owners name of Trevor. Is this by any chance Trevor Niscosa who breaks Y10's in Scotland? He hooked me up with my ARB and radius arms, top chap
Keep up the good work though, someday I'll have to see your Y10
Cheers,
Alex
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Indeed he is right about the coolant temp sensor! I did the same thing - fitted it and it didn't work. Although I suspect somebody had swapped the new sensor for the old one and taken it back to the shop - so I was double screwed!
Thanks Alex
It will be out to play at the Scottish Italian Car Day in St Andrews on 30th May. A far number of FF guys are making the trip. Blackpool to St Andrews?
Yes it is Trevor Nicosia but he is based in Buckinghamshire and not Scotland unfortunately. He owns the most pampered Y10 I have come across.
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I reckon I can make it to that. I have nine days booked off work to finish mine. As long as its not some kind of a concours event
Sorry to hear youv'e been having an arsey time though
I noticed in the pics of your underside, that your petrol tank has had the retaining straps removed leaving im guessing just the bolts. Did this cause any troubles come MOT time?
Scruffbag, my red Panda seems to have gone through the MOT OK with no tank straps, I'm just reinstating them with seat belt. Mind you it would have gome through with one sill constructed entirely of rust so the tester must have been in a good mood.I reckon I can make it to that. I have nine days booked off work to finish mine. As long as its not some kind of a concours event
Sorry to hear youv'e been having an arsey time though
I noticed in the pics of your underside, that your petrol tank has had the retaining straps removed leaving im guessing just the bolts. Did this cause any troubles come MOT time?
hope you are making it to st andrews, I'm definitely heading up.
Good news about the straps, I can just bin them by the sound of it. I'm hoping to find a similiarly lenient MOT tester for my car. Preferably one who a bit blind, a bit deaf and who will test something else by mistake.
Am I gonna get to meet the mighty Grumbleweed or Scruffbag?
This is the fail sheet from 2005. Needless to say I won't be showing my father whos currently storing the car this till I have a pass certificate to go with it.
Date of test:
28/06/2005
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
59,904 Miles
Test number:
424089875126
Test station name:
TWEEDBRIDGE GARAGE
Test station number:
7173BZ
Test station telephone number:
01890882474
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Offside Front Seat belt cut, causing the fibres to separate (5.1.B.2a)
Nearside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.1.B.6)
Offside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.1.B.6)
Offside Front Steering column movement between the shaft and steering wheel (2.1.2b)
Centre Rear Registration plate deteriorated (6.3.1d)
Nearside Front Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Offside Front Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Nearside Front Headlamp not in good working order light output severely reduced (1.2.4a)
Offside Front Headlamp not in good working order light output severely reduced (1.2.4a)
Nearside Rear Rear position lamp(s) adversely affected by the operation of another lamp (1.1.4d)
Nearside Rear Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Nearside Rear Coil spring mounting corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.C.3c)
Offside Rear Coil spring mounting corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.C.3c)
Nearside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.2)
Offside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.2)
Nearside Front Ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)
Offside Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.D.1)
Nearside Rear Trailing arm corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)
Offside Rear Trailing arm corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)
Nearside Front door Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Offside Front door Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Offside Front flexible hose Braking system leaking (3.6.A.1) **DANGEROUS**
Parking brake efficiency below requirements (3.7.A.9/10)
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
Front brake disc dust plate's corroded
Offside front flexible hose failed during RBT while testing rear brakes. Failure not due to visible condition but failure at join to metal union.
Date of test:
28/06/2005
Certificate issue refused (Fail)
Odometer reading:
59,904 Miles
Test number:
424089875126
Test station name:
TWEEDBRIDGE GARAGE
Test station number:
7173BZ
Test station telephone number:
01890882474
Test class:
IV
Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Offside Front Seat belt cut, causing the fibres to separate (5.1.B.2a)
Nearside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.1.B.6)
Offside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded (5.1.B.6)
Offside Front Steering column movement between the shaft and steering wheel (2.1.2b)
Centre Rear Registration plate deteriorated (6.3.1d)
Nearside Front Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Offside Front Headlamp aim too low when the centre of the headlamp is below 850mm from the ground (1.6.B2)
Nearside Front Headlamp not in good working order light output severely reduced (1.2.4a)
Offside Front Headlamp not in good working order light output severely reduced (1.2.4a)
Nearside Rear Rear position lamp(s) adversely affected by the operation of another lamp (1.1.4d)
Nearside Rear Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Nearside Rear Coil spring mounting corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.C.3c)
Offside Rear Coil spring mounting corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.C.3c)
Nearside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.2)
Offside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.2)
Nearside Front Ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)
Offside Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.D.1)
Nearside Rear Trailing arm corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)
Offside Rear Trailing arm corroded and seriously weakened (2.4.G.1)
Nearside Front door Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Offside Front door Body has a sharp edge caused by corrosion (6.1.4)
Offside Front flexible hose Braking system leaking (3.6.A.1) **DANGEROUS**
Parking brake efficiency below requirements (3.7.A.9/10)
Advisory Notice issued
Oil leak
Front brake disc dust plate's corroded
Offside front flexible hose failed during RBT while testing rear brakes. Failure not due to visible condition but failure at join to metal union.
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