Styling KC3 Project Silver

[KC3]

Bollie!

This guy in Cyprus can tint any interior or seat to any color, maybe there is someone in Belgium also that can do this.

Alternately send me your seats and we,l do them..

I really want to get mine done now just not sure which way to go at the mo..

Ideas, pics please, someone ...

 

[bollie69]

I think the shipping cost would exceed the cost of the upholstery of the seats.
There are a dozen of person who do this here in Belgium, but I don't have leather seats and getting leather on them would cost me around 600€ at least.
I can't affort that right now.

 

[F4usT]

before you go to upholster... try to find leather seats from Coupe. it's possible to fit with some small changes. years ago i bought non-leather Coupe seats and fit them, but i remove them because they were in really bad condition. they are more solid than barch have. also have additional reinforcements for "kidneys". those recaro bumps that hold you in seat. on back and legs... (don't know right word) but here is image...

 

[bollie69]

Verry nice find that coupe seats will fit.
Thank you

 

[KC3]

I have considered coupe seats, even been looking at s2000 seats . Both would look good i think. Somewhere i have seen the coupe seats in a B, but think they were a tight squeeze. Might get my trimmer to build the bolsters a little thicker on the B seats.

 

[F4usT]

it fit in bolts... but on driver's side, on rails you have to cut some part out. also problem is because seat bending lever is at same position as lever for popping roof.

here is my diy how to adapt them:
https://www.fiatforum.com/barchetta/143747-fiat-coupe-seats-b-3.html

 

[ThankYouMaggiora]

Kiry, take a look in my thread at some cheap seats on my B

 

[KC3]

Hiya!,

Yes, had a look, and they look good.

I have a close friend who is a interior trimmer and so if at some point I want some work done to the B I would get a good deal, but recently I have discovered this leather and interior recoloring specialist so looking at ideas and potential changes to the current B seats. I do like the patterned limited edition seats, obviously in black or grey but also something like the S2000 seats only not sure how they will look or fit . There is these black and grey seats going cheap, what do you think..

Be great is someone could photoshop some two tone black and grey colors into my silver B..

 

[KC3]

Ordered some more goodies for the B today,

Two new QH rear wheel bearings and left and right TRW wishbones.

Just curious though, Does anyone know if the standard Barchetta wishbones have the metal bearing bushes as those of the TRW..

 

[bollie69]

Ordered some more goodies for the B today,

Two new QH rear wheel bearings and left and right TRW wishbones.

Just curious though, Does anyone know if the standard Barchetta wishbones have the metal bearing bushes as those of the TRW..

Hiya,

Please what are the middle bushed for.
Where do they fit, as I thought they were for the front arms like in first pic.

I want to order front wishbones like you are but I need best quality.
I don't know wich ones are best, but I think febi bilstein could be close to OEM

 

[KC3]

I spoke to the company in germany who sell 5/6 diferents brands of the wishbones and they reccomended the trw and lemforder as being best quality and strongest parts. The bushes are for the wishbones only i added pics so as to show the metal bearing buhes. I think the omp parts are all rubber and mine seem worn.

 

[bollie69]

Dude, my car feels just the same.

First repair was the back end.
2 rubber caps over subframe -)great fix, going over trainrails is so much better now
then a rear wishbone als it was clunking. Left was ok.
Within a month oter side replaced as it stated clunking too.

Now the back end is like new but the front seem to fail now.
I wanted to order 2 wishbonen for te front now, also doing the 4 rubbers of the stut too that connects to the wishbonen.

The right front end schock is leaking a bit too, has been for a year or so

 

[KC3]

Hi Oli,

Yes, my rear bushes were shot for a while and was clunking over humps and bumps but I've had a permanent repair for those by replacing them with teflon. There solid now and should never fail again.
The rear end is now quiet and more taught

My front wishbones have a little play in their bushes and the wheel alignment guy recommended I replace them , I may have got away with just replaceing the bushes in them but most of all the underside suspension setup will be new now.

 

[KC3]

Planning a change with my induction so have my GSR avaliable along with some other neat mods, check out my adds or PM me for more details.

 

[bollie69]

You could always post those pictures here.
Don't forget to pm me back!

What's the cheapest you could find those trw wishbones?
If you replace the rubbers on the front ones, there is still some kind of joint to it what can't be replaced.
Woudn't it be better to repace the complete arm instaid of only bushes?

 

[KC3]

I am replacing the complete control arms,

Here is the link to the shop.

http://seekpart24.com/search?am=fiat&as=barchetta-183-95&c=1

 

[bollie69]

That's the same price I could find for the Febi bilsteins.
i'll think I'll go with those, as they are much more expensive at other shops as the TRW's.
Has to be a reason to it.

Here my link:
http://www.cesaro.fr/

 

[KC3]

Decided to insure the B just for the weekend and took her for a test Dyno run yesterday to see how her tunning was after the latest changes made, ie New diamond clutch, lightened, balanced 4kg flywheel, new belts and variator change and also removed the 200cel catt.

She feels good and seems to pull well but was suprised at the dyno results..

The Dyno machine hasnt a B in its list so the guy had to put an mx5 for comparison, something to do with gearing I believe and not sure if this makes any difference to the final readings but had three runs on the dyno and here are the videos and results.

The measurements are bhp at the wheels so believe I need to mutiply it by a bigger figure to show engine flywheel output but dont know how, maybe someone can help or know how to calculate this.

From the results is showed her map is off and what seems Bhp is down since my last dyno but here are the results of three runs anyhow.

1st run showed 118 but was running a too rich and dangerous AFR mixture.

2nd run with a couple turns of my fuel pressure regulator to add fuel gained 4bhp -to show a stil low but improoved 122bhp

3rd run after some more turns on the regulator improoved the AF to a safe state and we run a better 125bhp with 148 torque..

I think I,m correct with the bhp measurement at the wheels so the engine flywheel should be more but I dont know how to work out the difference.

So not sure if the results are good or bad..
Have three videos...

http://youtu.be/bTLvuK85U60

 

[bumble]

The BHP drop to the driven wheels is around 20% You will need to multiply your driven wheels BHP by 1 divided by 0.8 which is 1.25. This may be for conventional rear wheel drive vehicles, where a propshaft is used but, I cannot see it will be that different.

I'm heading for Paphos on 11th February, sort some sunshine out please

Steve

 

[KC3]

Steve! Thanks,

So the 2nd Dyno run at 122 at the wheels equates to Engine flywheel - 152.5bhp