is anyone good at factorizing equations?

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is anyone good at factorizing equations?

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Right i got set my first college math assignment a few weeks ago and i spent all day at work the other day completing it, until i got to the last question typical eh! :rolleyes:

All you need to do is put

x2(squared)+0.3x-1.2

into brackets basically

Heres an exmaple if anyone cant remember how they go

x"2(squared)+5x+6

equals

(x+2)(x+3)

Thanks to anyone that helps because its really got me stumped!

Bob
 
Oh those were the days!

Think of it like this: (^ is notation for to the power of)

x^2 + 3/10 - 6/5 = f(x)

You need two numbers that when mutiplied by each other give 6/5 (or 1.2) and then add together to equal 3/10 (or 0.3).

A quick check shows it's not so simple as your example. I used my supercalc and found straight away that I was correct.

The actual answers are (x-0.9556) and (x+1.255) (check it and see)

Now I wish you look trying to work that out instantly, I couldn't.

You now have two choices, CTS (complete the square) or use quadration equation. I will assume you haven't done much CTS so the equation it is:

x = -b + or - RT(b^2 - 4*a*c)/2a

where:
ax^2 + bx + c = 0 (you can prove it works too, one of the easiest proofs but not necessary). This will give the values at which the curve crosses the x-axis, i.e. the value of x that gives y as zero.

Hence:

-0.3+ or - RT(0.3^2 - 4*1*-1.2)/2x1

=> -0.3 + or - RT(0.09 + 4.8)/2
So -0.3+ or - RT( 4.89)/2 gives the ROOTS of the equation when it is equal to zero.

Hence x = 0.9556672.....
or x = -1.2556672.....

However, if you have understood this, these are the values that would give your sum as being 0, but you don't have an equation like that, hence you reverse the sign (you have worked backwards):

=> f(x) = (x+1.226)(x-0.956) (all to 3sf)

CTS would require me to have a piece of paper and a moment of thought.

Hope that helps, if not, let me know.
 
I'm fairly sure the answer's not pretty unless you mean 2x squared?

Although thinkning about it I don't think that's a nice number either!
If you use the quadratic formula you'll get the answers which are going to be long decimals.
 
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:p

I was going to do it all in word (boring afternoon lol) with equation editor and eventually do an excel spreadsheet for it, oh and then do Newton Rapheson on it for a numerical method.

Think the above helps though? If you've not done the quad eqn on your course yet though that's a meanie.
 
Thanks for your help! i had a thought when posting it that you would answer it for some reason! lol

This is the only kind of stuff ive done so far on my course. The only ones the lecturer has shown us how to do are ones like my example so you can see why i was stumped! Although we're now doing trig so the next assignment is a lot easier.
 
Good idea if you need any more help ask Paul. I think maths should be banned - when has anyone ever wanted to factorise stuff in real life? Ever?
 
Steve C said:
F*ck me pink! You people need to get out more!

Thats about right Steve!
Laest its nothing like the Fourier and Laplace wickedness I was witnessing earlier today..That sort of maths at 10am is truly horrific!
 
That doesn't count. School is not real life it's when you learn stuff you don't actually need to know. Well maths is anyway.
 
Most of engineering couldn't be done without the maths...

That may be true but how many people actually do maths with pen and paper these days? Computers do all the factorising there is to be done and I suspect that hardly anybody doing a non-maths job (including engineers) actually have to factorise stuff themselves. And there are far worse examples of useless maths INTEGRATION springs to mind - totally pointless.

Obvioulsy we can't just abandon maths but I reckon more practical applications could be taught at the very least. And to cap it off most maths people learn, like at A-level they learn for an exam and will have forgotten it all the following year. I know I had.
 
We still need to learn it, it's an integral part of learning. I know some of my work has to be done on comps these days BUT I can't use that comp without understanding the maths.
 
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