Technical Hew Uno on the forum

[Djordje111]

Hello to all. My name is Georg. I am new member on this forum, and also I am new to the world of automobiles. Yep I will have my driving laisons for few days.

Im my garage I have a fiat uno model 146 AD 33kw with 127A5.000 engine. The car is made in 1987.

My knowledge abouth this car is realy bad, so I please you to give me any informations,specifications,performances, e book guides, anything it woul be useful to a totaly beginer.

On other forum people told me that I should bring my car to a mehanic to check: Oil,fuel and air filter; to chech out oil level, and because the car was long in the garage to change the oil; to check brakes.
They also said that I should use mineral oil, and normal D2 diesel fuel.

Thats all for my first post.
Please say something, every information is useful for me.
P.S. Sory for my bad english.


Georg

 

[thepottleflump]

Hi and Welcome. What country are you from, you didn't say.

The Uno was a very accompished vehicle in it's generation. It's obviously been over taken by more modern machinery but it still a fine machine, ideal for someone new to cars. They are very easy to work on, and with some basic tools are easy to keep running on the road.

With an old diesel engine it is likely to be noisy, unrefined and with poor performance, unlikely to have a turbo charger which would give it a bit of extra omph. Sorry I don't have any specifications for this vehicle.

If the car has not be used in a long time it will need a thorough service to ensure that the brakes aren't siezed, likes of rubber hoses, fuel lines and tyres etc aren't perished and are in servicable condition. Oil will definately need changing. The air filter may not need changing, inspect it, if it looks relatively clean, but for the sake of a couple of quid you could just change it anyway. Uno parts are very cheap. Oil wise I'd expect the requirement to be a good SAE 15w/40 multigrade a modern mineral based oil is likely to absolutely fine something like Castrol GTX.

Not familar with diesel fuels overseas. In the UK all diesel fuel must meet a minimum British Standard, probably not the same everywhere else though. If the car has a diesel fuel filter this probably should be changes too.

Good luck and enjoy the forum.

 

[Djordje111]

Thanks for welcome. I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina. Heh bad country bad

 

[Djordje111]

How much Air I should get In my tires. Does it goes on the max as indicated on the tires, or litle lower

 

[thepottleflump]

I can't remember about the Uno but would be between 28 - 32psi I'd guess.

 

[Djordje111]

I have tought hhat tre tire presure shoud be as indicated on the tires Individually, and not for car tupes separated.

 

[alexGS]

I have tought hhat tre tire presure shoud be as indicated on the tires Individually, and not for car tupes separated.

Hi there Georg, welcome to the forum

DO NOT put in the maximum pressure!
That is for safety-reserve or for very heavy trailers etc. only. It is often 50-60psi... for maximum load (not the Uno!) and applies to new tyres only (see below)

The correct pressure for standard size Uno tyres (155/70 13, or 135 13 on certain basic models) is 1.9bar, as printed on the instrument panel. This is 27.5psi. All tyres should be the same pressure. As thepottleflump said, there is a bit of leeway in practice, up to 30 psi is OK at the back (in my experience) and up to 32 psi at the front - this helps to make the steering easier (less force required on the steering wheel) but you notice slightly more noise/harshness.

Speaking of tyres - did you know that tyres should be less than about six years old? By the time they are this old, they become hard and have less grip in the wet, believe it or not. Check the sidewall and tread blocks for perishing/cracks, which are a sign of old-age.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/tire_expire.htm shows that it's not just the tyre sales people who say this - in fact, the tyre manufacturers/sellers are not all that keen because having an age limit makes it harder for them to sell old tyres!

Because the rear tyres on an Uno wear out so slowly, I believe it is best to move them to the front of the car ("rotate the tyres") to make sure that all tyres wear out equally before they get too old. On one of my cars I had to replace all four tyres at once, not because they were worn out, but because they had all perished together at eight years of age and failed the safety test inspection...

Sorry if it seems like I'm going on a bit about tyres, but they are perhaps the most important safety item that you can control

For other things, perhaps try some 'Advanced' searches of the forum - choose the Uno forum under 'Search In' and type in your chosen topics such as 'fuel filter', 'diesel', etc. and you'll get a pretty good feel for what's been covered

-Alex

 

[thepottleflump]

Good advice Alex, I normally go about 32psi up front and 30psi at the rear in most of my cars. Older cars seem to suggest around 28psi but more recently there seems to be a move to slightly higer pressures which no only make the car easier to steer but saves a little fuel. Definately not the pressure indicated on the tyre unless you want a face full of rubber or a arse clenching ditch moment. As for the tyre ages that quite correct, my brother in law has worked as a tyre fitter and said the same, there is a way of reading the age of the tyre from the markings, not immediately obvious. Good way of checking you're not getting old stock tyre. He recommended max 5 years. Most manufacturers recommend putting your best tyres on the rear and worn tyres up front, I think it's preferrable to have the front let go before the rear, I guess easier to control than the rear coming round, not that it's ever happened to me.

 

[Gav F]

i put around 33psi in mine all round

 

[Djordje111]

First I want to thank you all for posting.

I suppose that on my uno are standard tyres, buth I dont know it truly. I will see it as soonest I can. And I will also try to see how old they are (thanks for the link) Buth I do not suppose that they are too old. The sides do not have any erors and
the tread blocks are ok. ( of course that is im my non practised eyes for those things ). As i said tha car was long time in garage, and it realy have not moved a lott, so the tires were litle lowered(little air is out), buth they are preaty ok, buth I have red on that link that the tires also get bad in standing. I will post more when I see it.

Is it good to fill them 2 bars to front and 1.9 to a rear tires ?
I do not think that rotating of tires is needed now, maybe after some driving time, I will do it.

P.S. Ofcourse I will use advanced options search.

P.S.S. Here is anoter questions. my instrument panel says that this car has abouth 195000 kilomethers. Is this to much ?

P.S.S.S. And again sory for my bad english, I hope you understand me.

Thats all for this mesage.


Georg

 

[Djordje111]

? any replays ???

 

[I.R.]

? any replays ???

hello there goerg! i'm from the philippines, a tropical island country somewhere in southeastern asia...far eh...back to your question. 195,000km is really an achievement if not too much for a such small car like ours but here in manila, some unos are cabs that have logged in over 200,000 kms. almost running daily 8-12 hours minimum for at least 10 years now . and they are diesel fed just like yours. hope that boosts your spirit...

 

[Djordje111]

Hello man, I would like one day to be on your island, buth that is just an fantasy of mine

hehe so my uno have a 5000 km more

I have read someelse that for a car i bether to drive it 15 hours without stoping it, then a to drive it cca for tventy minutes and that turn it of and let it cold and then turn it again ???

 

[Chas Uno]

hehe so my uno have a 5000 km more

I have read someelse that for a car i bether to drive it 15 hours without stoping it, then a to drive it cca for tventy minutes and that turn it of and let it cold and then turn it again ???

If you service the engine regularly and keep it in good condition you'll still have many more miles to go. The petrol FIRE engines are reckoned to be good for over 300,000kms, so the diesel being unstressed should easily manage that!

And yes, it is better to have an engine running constantly rather than running it for short journeys from cold. Most engine wear takes place upon start up with a cold engine, whereas one running at a constant temperature will reduce this start up and cold running wear.

And if you have a 1987 Uno with a diesel engine you have a rare beast indeed!

Welcome to the forum

 

[Djordje111]

If you service the engine regularly and keep it in good condition you'll still have many more miles to go. The petrol FIRE engines are reckoned to be good for over 300,000kms, so the diesel being unstressed should easily manage that!

Ofcourse I will try to servise it regularly and keep in good condition. Also I am a beginer driver so I do not drive fast. Haha this car cannot be driven fast

And if you have a 1987 Uno with a diesel engine you have a rare beast indeed!

Man I have spent a hours truying to find informations abouth this car, didnot find dem much
So I have rare car, thats cool

Welcome to the forum

Thanks man

 

[Djordje111]

I have changed the air filhter on my car. And Soon I wil change fuel filter. But I cannot find oil filther. Where is it hiden ?

 

[Djordje111]

Stil dod not foun my oil finther....
any help

 

[Chas Uno]

It should be on the engine block somewhere (that's the part of the engine below the cylinder head and above the sump) either at the front or back. Look for a cannister type of object (about the size of a cup) screwed into the side of the block and that should be your oil filter. Having never worked on the diesel engine I can't say for sure where it is but as you're having trouble finding it I suspect it is at the back of the engine where it isn't so easy to see.

Hope this might help!

 

[Djordje111]

Stil not found it. Wfont, rear, up down...can find it
I will post a picture of my engine, as soon I borow a camera

 

[Djordje111]

A I have finaly found it. He was on so easy(hard) to find place.