Thanx, i had a trial run at removing the dash, got it off as far as cutting the cable ties. Ive just bypassed the heater and it running ok........my mechanics skills have never been put to so much use as they have these past two weeks, i mean a cmplete exhaust fitted, new cambelt tensioner and belt fitted and now the bloody heater matrix soon to be done. What else can go wrong.........no dont even go there.