Technical head gasket!!!

[birchy balboa]

had head gasket go on me last week.

any water i it in just bubbles over due to gas.
i have gasket set ready to fit and need head skimming.

i will have to replace the bolts? are the bolts i need specific for the car/ if so where will i get them from?

thankx tom

 

[the stig/130]

had head gasket go on me last week.

any water i it in just bubbles over due to gas.
i have gasket set ready to fit and need head skimming.

i will have to replace the bolts? are the bolts i need specific for the car/ if so where will i get them from?

thankx tom

yes, you should replace the bolts, the supplier should have mentioned to replace them and offer them, apparently the bolts stretch, where to get them? fiat dealer , fiat/lancia/alfa specialist,trade motor factors,
in my part of the world(manchester) J.B.S. spares. 0161 6888391.

 

[birchy balboa]

ok thankx i was told they stretched.

they may be with gasket set i hve not seen yet as dad picked it up for me, so hopefully they will be there?!:slayer:

 

[pandamaniac]

For what it costs do the water pump and timing belt at the same time.

If its boiled and buggered the headgasket its probably the thermostat thats failed as well as the pump.

Pandamaniac.

 

[jangcy]

For what it costs do the water pump and timing belt at the same time.

If its boiled and buggered the headgasket its probably the thermostat thats failed as well as the pump.

Pandamaniac.

Yes - that's good idea!!- less to do in future...

 

[birchy balboa]

had head skimmed and all gaskets in ect.. drive home from dads and it seems worse han before really missing somethings only goes in 1st as normal. 2,3,4,and 5th need to be high revs all the time. or car just splutters takes ages to pick up.

sorry about bad explanation, any thorghts on what it could be??
i reckon timing is out??
:worship:

 

[CLXCraig]

I think it could be timing

had a similar issue during the cold monhs and changing the HT leads really helped. do them and either replace plugs or clean and re-gap. see if it makes a differnce

 

[purple haze]

Manifolds and injection bolts all tight??.....did you clean ALL the old gaskets off??...Timing does sound like needs checking...

kev

 

[lightweightmick]

It's an easy check to see if all timing marks line up - see my guide 'Timing Belt Replacement'.
If it starts and ticks over but sounds lumpy and runs rough you may have damaged the temperature sensor on the manifold and this will cause it to run overly rich - as it's telling the ECU it's cold even when the engine warms up. I had this problem with the CLX after the head gasket had gone. I got a new sensor from local accessory shop for about £9.
hope this helps!
cheers
lwm

 

[rallycinq]

Agreed, start with the timing.

Cheers

SPD

 

[birchy balboa]

it was my dad think he put the wrong type of gasket in the divvy. covered in silicon both sides mand not creating a seal therfore head has gone again lots of oil in water anothe job to do tomorrow quite lucky tho.. noticed the gear linkage bracket had snapped needs welding when can get to it. 1 thing after another

 

[CLXCraig]

it was my dad think he put the wrong type of gasket in the divvy. covered in silicon both sides mand not creating a seal therfore head has gone again lots of oil in water anothe job to do tomorrow quite lucky tho.. noticed the gear linkage bracket had snapped needs welding when can get to it. 1 thing after another

Did no one mention this is what Panda ownership is all about?

 

[lightweightmick]

SILICONE!!!
Repeat after me: 'Dad, stay AWAY from the Panda..'

 

[purple haze]

Silicone!!!......you have got a manual i hope!!???...did you tighten the head bolts as per the instructions???...DO NOT FORGET THEY ALSO UNDO IN A CERTAIN WAY!!!!!!
ALSO YOU MUST CHECK THAT THE GASKET IS THE RIGHT WAY UP!!!!!!
kev

 

[Chas Uno]

SILICONE!!!
Repeat after me: 'Dad, stay AWAY from the Panda..'

:yeahthat:

Just to repeat:

SILICONE?!!!!

:doh:

Or should that be "Silly Cone"

Remember to "RTFM" next time...

 

[purple haze]

IOTY...wot you think Trev???.....or am i being out of order???

 

[birchy balboa]

He thort it was silicone maybe it wasnt.? Did the job again today changing bolts gaskets timed it up correctly accordin to manual. Got it back together running fine better than ever. . . Until a nice puddle of oil was forming under it. So giving up with it cannot afford the bills so either scrap or sell car on ebay? Any ideas?:bang:

 

[purple haze]

He thort it was silicone maybe it wasnt.? Did the job again today changing bolts gaskets timed it up correctly accordin to manual. Got it back together running fine better than ever. . . Until a nice puddle of oil was forming under it. So giving up with it cannot afford the bills so either scrap or sell car on ebay? Any ideas?:bang:

Wheres oil coming from???

 

[Most Easterly Pandas]

:yeahthat:

You've done so much. Can't give up now!

 

[birchy balboa]

Well it looks like the top of the sump bottom of the block. Only does it when warm and running?