alright had my car on the rollers to day and was pretty chuffed with the result got 98 bhp @ 6900 rpm and 83 lbf/ft @ 5050 rpm thats for a 1998 sporting 1.2 16V with a peco s/s cat back exhaust what does everyone think?? i'm well chuffed with the result was hoping for around 86ish as its ment to be that standard but to get almost 100bhp i was over the moon!!!
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i wanna get my cinqi rollin roaded lol. sounds good! 98 bhp eh!
How accurate are those machines?
How accurate are those machines?
hate to be the one to say it but some arnt all that accurate, dont know what the one that mikey went to was like though so cant say if it was inaccurate or not 
does sound good though
does sound good though
Also as I read somewhere by somebody on here, you wouldn't be very happy if you came out reading less than you hoped!
I can imagine mine reading about 38bhp
This site's got loads of useful articles about rolling roads and tuning in general:
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/mainmenu.htm
It's mostly centred around tuning Ford engines, but the theory applies to any engine.
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/mainmenu.htm
It's mostly centred around tuning Ford engines, but the theory applies to any engine.
I had a 126 once and the haynes manual claimed it had a staggering 26hp!!!! thats would'nt even be enough to turn the rollers!
the 704cc cinq prob had more grunt than that.
704cc, was that ever sold here?
my 126 was a 704cc?....surely its not the same engine is it? the flat twin?
No i don't think it was> not enought grunt to get over speed bumps and such like.
I think people in the USA used them to roll down hill in San Fransico lmao!
Could well be same engine??
I think people in the USA used them to roll down hill in San Fransico lmao!
Could well be same engine??
704cc cinq was sold in mainland europe only, iirc in the last 20-30 years no fiats have been sold in america (could be wrong here) sorry we've moved off topic back to topic
CHEERS FOR MAKIN ME LOOK LIKE A DUMBASS!!!! :nono:GhostWKD said:no fiats have been sold in america (could be wrong here) sorry we've moved off topic back to topic
:nono: misquote, no new fiats sold in america for a while now, they have been in the past
:nono: Again> thanks for makin me look like a dumbass EVEN MORE!
Well Ghost, strictly speaking you're wrong as Fiats are still sold in South America, which is part of America as a whole. I think what you were trying to say was none are currently sold in the USA or North America (don't know if the are available in Canada or Mexico for example).
Mikey that sounds good, I'm coming to your next rolling road day if it says the same thing about my 1.2 16v
Mikey that sounds good, I'm coming to your next rolling road day if it says the same thing about my 1.2 16v
what was the figure at the wheels - calculated flywheel readings arent always that reliable!
we should do a FF rolling road day
we should do a FF rolling road day
alexb
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arc said:
Calculated fly readings are rarely reliable. The ONLY accurate way to get @fly readings is to get the engine out and get it dyno'd independently of the car on a dyno bench.
Calculating the @fly figure from the @wheels figure depends on you knowing the exact % of transmission loss for your specific car - And not all cars are the same.
Like arc says, what was you're @wheels figure - Coz that's where it counts!
arc said:we should do a FF rolling road day
I'm up for that!
sh33n
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arc said:
What he said, lol!
On the fly or at the wheels??
j@mie
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I had my GT RR in November, and the results were v.good, however, slightly worrying...
The car is suppose to be 130BHP @ the fly, and instead it came out just over 160BHP @ the fly, and 130BHP @ the wheels.
Now I have no mods, apart from a K&N and Bleed Valve, which is set to FIAT standard: 1.2 BAR.
The engine is v.strong, I had it fully tested before it went on the RR. The engineer said it was one of the best Punto GT's he'd done. Each pot is equal, very rare apparently.
My car, really does pull hard.
I see other Punto GT RR Results and they differ quite a lot. For instance, another standard GT came out at 130BHP. Of which 105BHP was at the wheels. Now, with mine, thats 160BHP, and 130BHP and the wheels??? You what???
Some people have had SEB'd chips, DE-Cats, Exhausts, etc, etc, and they perform just as good as mine. Weird.
A friend of mine has a standard Fiesta RS Turbo, now these are suppose to be just as quick as a Punto GT, but mine out does his.
I had print-outs of the full test, and I looked into it with detail, and I just can't understand it... I've worked on my car a lot recently, mainly replacing parts, and servicing it. Its not chipped, and there are no signs at all of any moddifications.
Still, its a good little runner...
The car is suppose to be 130BHP @ the fly, and instead it came out just over 160BHP @ the fly, and 130BHP @ the wheels.
Now I have no mods, apart from a K&N and Bleed Valve, which is set to FIAT standard: 1.2 BAR.
The engine is v.strong, I had it fully tested before it went on the RR. The engineer said it was one of the best Punto GT's he'd done. Each pot is equal, very rare apparently.
My car, really does pull hard.
I see other Punto GT RR Results and they differ quite a lot. For instance, another standard GT came out at 130BHP. Of which 105BHP was at the wheels. Now, with mine, thats 160BHP, and 130BHP and the wheels??? You what???
Some people have had SEB'd chips, DE-Cats, Exhausts, etc, etc, and they perform just as good as mine. Weird.
A friend of mine has a standard Fiesta RS Turbo, now these are suppose to be just as quick as a Punto GT, but mine out does his.
I had print-outs of the full test, and I looked into it with detail, and I just can't understand it... I've worked on my car a lot recently, mainly replacing parts, and servicing it. Its not chipped, and there are no signs at all of any moddifications.
Still, its a good little runner...
